No. 14 Original, Abstract of the Testimony, vol. 2, pp. 749-1426

Abstract Testimony, V 2, p. 1302

wash . Aside from those 1302 two places they had no trouble and would go right along . He would judge that he made about thirty or ( thirty-five thirtyfive ) round trips on the boat . He could not state the percentage of time on the thirty or ( thirty- thirty ) five trips that he was delayed by sand bars and other conditions , but it ( didn't didnt ) amount to very much . He would judge that during the whole period they were delayed by sand bars four or five times . ( R . 5098-5100 . ) Q . Do you mean four or five times , or four or five trips ? A . Take it either way , I guess . I ( can't cant ) hardly get at what you mean . ( R . 5100 . ) The longest time he recalls being held up with the big boat was two hours at Kane Spring Wash . This trouble was occasioned by a ( cloud-burst cloudburst ) in Kane Wash that washed silt down and changed the channel of the river . The next longest time occurred at the wash further down where they were held up about an hour . Several other times they were held up for just a minute or two but would back right off . His work on the barge was helping to load and unload . He also piloted the boat a little . ( R . 5100-5101 . ) ( Cross-examination Crossexamination ) ( R . , Vol . 29 , pp . 5102-5106 ) : The two months which he operated on the boat [ barge ] was not continuous operation , sometimes ( run- run ) ning for a couple of weeks and then laying off a day or two . These operations took place in the summer of 1927 , and ( sometimes som'etimes sometimes ) in the fall of 1928 , and was