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Show 5238 Newby- D 3250 BY MR. BLACKMAR: Q Did you know Tom Wimmer? A Yes sir. Q Do you know a boat that he at one time owned, called the Marguerite? A I didn't know the Marguerite. Q Did you know another boat there, known as the Betsy Ann? A No, I didn't. Q When was the last time you were at Greenriver, Utah, near the river? A It was the day I was subpoenaed; I guess that was about the 4th of the month. Q Are there any boats tied up there at Greenriver now? A Not that I know of. Q Turning back just a moment to this trip of the Cliff Dweller, on your up- trip after you left Wimmer's ranch, do you recall any difficulty that you had in and about Brown's riffle? A Yes. Q Tell me about that, please. A Well, there is a little island right there below this riffle they call Goat island; you can take your choice of the sides of the island for a channel, which we did. We took our choice, and we stuck fast on the gravel, and we were stuck good and hard coarse, gravel rock that would weigh fifteen or |