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Show 5063 F. Johnson- D 3075 of a sandbar, had to get out in the water at this point. Q Did that occur on just this one occasion, or were there others? A There were a number of places that the outboard account of hitting the sand so much, so we turned that over. And then there was a number of places where the bottom of the boat would drag on the sand. Only in the one places that I remember now did we have to get out and lift the boat off. Q After you left the mouth of Warm creek and on into Lees Ferry did you have any difficulty? MR. FARSWORTH: That is what he has been talking about, as I understand it. A This is above warm creek. BY MR. BLACKMAR: Q At what point? A This one point above warm creek, I am not certain, because that was my first trip down the river. Q Was the place where you lifted it off above or below warm creek? A Several miles above warm creek. Q Have you ever seen this place up warm creek where they got their coal? A On this survey we went to one place where they had been digging coal. I couldn't say whether it was the place they got their coal or not. It was a hole in the ground, and |