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Show two years , in ( sailing sailihlg2 ) and 522 two years in steamships . . . He ( lias has ) an official ( life-boat lifeboat ) certificate and a second ( mate's mates ) license , unlimited as a navigator . He made a trip up the Columbia River to The , Dalles , Oregon , and portaged an ( eighteen-foot eighteenfoot ) ( boat boat- boat ) across to ( Port Fort ) Benton . He made a trip down ( the- the the ) . Missouri River to St . Louis , then up the ( Missis Missis- Missis ) sippi River to Grafton , where he entered the ( Dli-- Dli ) nois River , and from there on up to Chicago . This . trip was made in 1925 . ( R . 1811-1812 . ) During November and December , 1927 , he was with the ( Pathe-Bray PatheBray ) ( moving-picture movingpicture ) ( expedition expeditlion ) , . as a boatman . This expedition consisted of six boats . The boat ( he lie ) had charge of was a little over eighteen feet long , about a four or five foot beam , , ( with w-ith with ) a four or four and ( one-half onehalf ) foot cockpit . The . forward and aft compartments were sealed off with ( water-tight watertight ) bulk heads , with ( water-tight watertight ) hatches that screwed down on rubber gaskets that were used to carry the baggage , cargo , and radio . The boat he operated was the radio boat and they ( had bad ) ( every- every ) thing under ( hatches batches ) , so that if the boat tipped ( over- over ) it ( wouldn't wouldnt ) sink and would also keep the ( equip- equip ) ment dry . This was the same expedition of which * ( Mr AIr ) . Clark and Mr . Rodin testified . Four of the boats were eighteen feet long or a little over , two of them about sixteen feet . There was a little sheer on the ( sixteen-foot sixteenfoot ) boats , but the others were more or less straight along the top . . ( R . 1812-1813 . ) The boats were not equipped |