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Show Kolb- D 851 sandbars; the man who was rowing didn't have to get out; we would change ours quite frequently and none of us liked to do it; we had to do it a number of times, each of us. BY THE SPECIAL MASTER: Q The previous witness has used an express on which I note you do not use at all. Do you use the word crossing- bar, at all? Does it mean anything to you? A There are a few places where we know that it is shallow, and we were told that they were used by the early settlers to ford the river. Q Is that what you understand a crossing- bar to mean? A That is what I would think. Q You don't term any of these various sand banks you said you ran into,-- you do not give them a name of crossing- bar? A No; in fact, that term is rather unusual to me. Q You had not heard it? A No sir. BY MR. BLACKMAR: Q Then you gave Trimble his supplies, and you proceeded from there down to Lee's Ferry? A Yes sir. Q Did you encounter any sandbars from the mouth of the San Juan to Lee's Ferry? A We encountered most of them in that section; most of the trouble we had with sandbars was in that section. 2821 |