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Show Hyde- C 640 A I wouldn't like to answer that yes or no. I can't swear it was every winter; but I will say very nearly every winter. Q Right up until you left there, some three years ago? A Yes sir, men down there every winter, practically, looking. Q When did this drilling for oil begin down there? A Well, I can't give you the date. Q Can you give it approximately? A I would say 1909, somewhere in there. Q Been going on since that time, has it? A Yes, all except the delay when the Department withdrew that, the Naval Department withdrew all claims; it stopped then until it was re- opened, three years ago this month, wasn't it? Four years ago,-- I don't remember. Q You had a permit down there, did you? A Yes, I had several of them. Q You are still interested in several of them? A Yes sir. Q Your permits, some of them, are right on the San Juan river? A Yes sir. Q Your permits, are permits you held from the United States? A Yes sir. Q You do not hold any state leases down there? A We do not. Our locations were made under the old Placer Petroleum Act; you understand what I mean; you know, in those days they were made under the placer laws that we made our entries then; when the government withdraw them, we were 2608 |