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Show Rose (1/17/83) page 40 Mr. R Mr. K Mr. R Mr. K Mr. R of the depression here? What do you remember? No great thing. The depression was simply no work, there was the feeling that there was no work, and there probably wasn't. My societal area wasn't where ••• people made a living one way or another, it mig~t not have been a good living, but they had reserves ••• mine was on the level where there was no work. So, there was 'the nothing', the negative nothing just prevailing the whole world in which I lived at that time, except the positive feeling that I'm not the stupidist guy in the world, and one day this is going to get over. I mean, I was never depressed to the point where I didn't think there was going to be a better tomorrow. So, you had some real hope that things could change? I don't think 'hope' is exactly the word, 1t's just a feeling, that's all, that one day this is going to end, some day it's got to co~e to something. If that's not hope, what would you call it? Well, go find yourself a word, I mean, what the hell do you want from me, I'm doing the best for you I can, and you're involving me in semantics now. But, I will say it all changed with first Harry Goldberg, I don't think there's anybody 1n the world that I owe more than I do him, and then Tom Gaddis. Now, that didn't happen over night, I didn't go to Harry Goldberg's office and all of a sudden h1t pay dirt the next day. There had to be maybe 6 or 8 months 1n there, and they were tough. And then Harry was a bank lawyer, but he wasn't the most d111gent lawyer, so 1n a way I never paid him enough - I want to be very, very careful about that - I never paid the man enough because for me it was the chanc |