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Show 7374 Wolverton- D 5354 Q What is that? A Three minutes, I think, would cover the time. Q Now, with the Navajo, I wish you would state what if any difficulties of any kind or character, sandbars, rapid water or anything else you have encountered during the years that you have operated the Navajo on those rivers. A We had no difficulty excepting at times in running through what river men call sand rolls; where the waves jump, they are always carrying a lot of sand; the engine would pick that up and leave a certain amount in the water jacket; frequently we had to clean that out; that is all. Q A side from that engine trouble do you recall any other troubles of any kind or character you had during the years you were navigating with the Navajo? A I do not. BY THE SPECIAL MASTER: Q Would you describe to me, Mr. Wolverton, what you mean by sand rolls? A Well, I am giving them the name that the people usually use here. A sand roll is something that is left after a side wash is in flood, it brings in a large amount of sand and mud, gets that out into the river; of course the river is wider than the wash was, and spreads out a little, then the current in the channel starts to cut it in scallops. Q That only occurs when there is high water, when there |