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Show 4309 Loper- D 2330 other boat and take it down and tie it up. When we came to the Narrow I couldn't go down and come back up; there was no place to walk, there was no place to get around; that is where we broke Mr. Blake in to boating; he boated through there, and then he didn't boat my any more until we struck the second narrows, which is about twenty- seven or twenty- eight miles below Chinle creek. That was a long loop; the river made a long loop, must have been half a mile in there there was no way to walk, at all, and big sand waves in there. Mr. Trimble had to climb these terraces up to the top of this hill, -- and Mr. Blake, and I guess maybe Mr. Hyde and Hugh Miser, they had with them for a cool head, -- Mr. Blake was a new boatman -- they made that trip, filled the boat half full of water all around, to where Mr. Trimble could look down and get his point. Mr. Allen and Mr. Trimble and Mr. Christensen and myself went through. Q On one occasion when you were on this trip was it necessary for you to bring some supplies a short distance by boat? A We had a pack train meet us at certain points along the river; the last place the pack train was due to meet us was at the mouth of Piute canyon, twenty- one miles from the junction; the pack train always boat its time about a day, |