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Show 7401 Dern- D 5380 by that any part of the Colorado below Cataract canyon? A Yes sir. Q At what point did you come to the river on that trip? A At the mouth or Crescent wash, just about two miles, I think, below the lower end of Cataract canyon. Q And to what point on the river did you proceed? A Lees Ferry, Arizona, a distance of about one hundred and seventy- two miles. Q All of the way by boat? A Yes sir. Q On the Colorado river? A Yes sir. Q That is the trip on which Mr. Dave Rust accompanied you? A Yes sir. Q I will ask you to state, Governor Dern, whether or not on that trip you encountered any sandbars, or your journey was delayed in any way, so far as you recall, by any sandbars? A None what ever that I recall. Q Did you observe any other difficulties or impediments to navigation on that stretch of water? A None at all. Q And do you recall the month and year that you took this trip, Governor? A It was in April, 1926; I think we left here on the |