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Show Record parties stipulated in Washington. But from their information they 4700 expressed the conclusion that the rivers are not vavigable in inter-state commerce, that there are difficulties above and below which prevent such commerce; that no interstate commerce travels over the sections of the river covered by the report. I will read one or two very brief extracts: " The portions of the Green and Grand rivers which are commercially navigable, therefore, lie entirely within the State of Utah, and they do not form a highway for commerce with other states or foreign countries by their connection with other waters. " I am therefore of the opinion that the Green and Grand Rivers are not navigable waters of the United States, but of the State of Utah, and, further, they are not worthy of improvements by the general government at this time." 4701 " It is my opinion that a skillful pilot, if navigating the rivers regularly, could without difficulty take at time of ordinary low water a flat- bottom boat of ample power, 60 feet 4702 long, 12 feet beam, drawing 24 inches, over the Grand River from Moab to the junction and over the Green River from the junction to the Brown riffle, one- half mile below the bridge at the town of Greenriver. In the event of freighting on the river, truck-ing would be required, and to have to haul to and from the foot of Brown riffle instead of the bridge is not alone sufficient to have prevented installation of water carriage if conditions were otherwise ripe for it. All through the summer and early fall boats of greater draft that 2 feet could be navigating the rivers and they would be doing it if existing needs of com-merce justified it, but they have not done so." " If 2 feet depth at low water instead of 3 is sufficient to give commerce, if any, a start, then there is no need of deep-ening anywhere, and the only work required is to add to the safety navigation by dragging for and removing rocks to a depth of 2 feet on the Brown, Butterfly, Halverson, Gimlet, Second Anvill, and San Rafael riffles, on the Green River, all at a cost not exceeding $ 5,000; and to provide at the Slide on the Grand River a line anchored above for boats to pull on in going up when the current is too strong to stem." 4703 " But the Green and Grand rivers are not navigable waters of the United States, but of the State of Utah only." The Special Master: Of course, officers of the War Department have no official duties to express an opinion on whether water in navigable water of the State of Utah. Their official duties are confined simply to expressing opinions as to whether it is a navigable water of the United States. But so far as their report is a report of facts, it is entirely relevant. 4704 If Mr. Blackmar could express to me what the purpose of the Government is in introducing testimony about conditions between |