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Show Record four hours one day. I have seen it stuck at other times also. All told I think I have see that boat stuck eight or ten time, from 4346 five minutes to fifteen or half an hour. With the small boats I never encountered any trouble with sand bars that hold us up for more than a minute, and those occurrences were infrequent. We did not have to get out and push the boat. I was not running the boat all the time. When other people were running the small motor boats and I was riding with them, none of us would have to get out and push these boats off sand bars. While I was on the Colorado River on my first expedition I saw other boats on the river besides our own boats and the Moab Garage boats, probably five or six boats plying that river, going up and down the river. The next year I was there I saw the same boats going up and down the river. Aside from the trouble that I observed the large boat of the Moab Garage Company to have on the occasions I have spoken of, I did not observe either with our own boats or with boats operated by others, any difficulties encountered in the way of sand bars or otherwise. K. D. Williams testified on cross examination as fol- 4348 lows: I understand a rapid is a place in a river where it runs over rocks and falls to the extent that the water tumbles, a fall of about two feet in fifty feet. In that section of the San Juan River I did not see any rapids that would meet the description I have just given, that is from Clay Hill Crossing to a point about 8 miles above the mouth. I saw all sections of the river there. I saw sand waves and the water running quite swiftly in places. I saw places where there were rocks in the river bed and I think I could take a motorboat through. There are places where I could not row a boat up, but I believe a motor boat would go up. The San Juan is swifter than the Colorado. I have never operated a motor boat except on the Colorado. All the time I was on the San Juan River my boat was |