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Show 5651 101 3658 A I believe I came out the Green River on one occa-sion; I was cut the Grand on two; on the trip out the Green, I do remember coming up that river, but whether I came all the way out I do not remember. I do not remember making two distinct trips out the Grand river to Moab. Q On the trip between the junction and Moab, did you encounter any difficulties? A Yes, sir. Q What was the character of them? A As I remember it, they were similar, or possibly worse that the Green; I believe the sediment of the river was worse. It was possibly a different color. As I remember the country now, it was distinctive from the Green. As I remember the rapids, I think they were more frequent. The first trip out was not as bad -- in fact, I know it was not as bad as the last trip, which was taken soon after flood water, which made it the most dangerous trip I had at any time in the river. Q Did you recall the occasion for those trips out on the Grand River? A Yes. The first was the results of an impostor, as I later determined, a party that came in there representing the |