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Show Record send out we naturally send it to the nearest market. There are some Indian trading posts down below. They get flour and hay and the like of that up where we live is all. If the Indian trading posts wanted to send out something they bought from the Indians, such as blankets or furs, there is no city or town or market on the San Juan to which they could send them that I know of, unless they should go way up into Colorado or New Mexico, but I do not know anything about that. I testified of two occasions that the river was dry at Bluff and I testified that I recalled once when I could see the 430 rocks clear across the river. The last occasion was not in addition to the two occasions when the river went dry. The point where I could see the rocks clear across was at Clay Hill Crossing, about 75 miles down the river, which is a shallow part of the river at any time. It was in the winter time, in December, or about the 431 first of January. The river was partly frozen. There was ice in it. Four or five rods of the river any way was not frozen. I went over the ice on horse back and waded the horse across the 4 or 5 rods of river and then the horse climbed up on the ice and 432 went on across. That is the place where I saw the rocks, that is through this 4 or 5 rods piece. I would judge the water came up to the horse's ankles, maybe a little above. I don't think I men- 433 tioned the water was 10 inches deep at this place. I could see the rocks clear across, some of them were sticking plum out of the water. I could not see any part of the stream under the ice. I travelled maybe a couple or three rods on ice on each side in get-ting across the river. Of course it might have been a mile. My recollection is that my horse walked 4 rods on ice before he came 434 to this open space and waded and then approximately 4 rods on the other side. I am testifying only from recollection as to this. I don't know that I had any occasion to look down to see how far up the water came on the horse's legs. I am making that as an estimate. I estimated it from the appearance of the exposed rocks and I based my judgment on that entirely. As to this second place, I |