Spanish speaking peoples in Utah, oral histories: book 8, numbers 81 through 90

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Interview: Isidro & Inez Marrufo Page 42 SM: La Raza, s(, s{ es de Mexico. Es Mexicano, es el instead of to be Chicano es La Raza, 0 Mexicano, or Mexican. BM: What do you think about the people that are working for La Raza movement? Like Corky Gonzales, have you every heard of him, from Denver. Or Cesar Chavez, what do you think of those men and what they are doing in the United States? Do you think they are helping out the Mexican people, do you think they are bringing their problems? MM: They say they are going to make almost like dividir una nacion, como separar la nacionlaidad en lugar de decir. Well, soy americano yo soy chicano. SM: I like the way they are working on it now, try to be together with everybody you know, try to get everybody together, with the with one group is alright, I like it that way, but the way I don't like is the name they put on, Chicano, because I don't know. MM: We don't know the meaning, Chicano. SM: Maybe we are wrong, but I don't even like to hear Chicano because. MM: You know Chicano in Spanish. In really Castilian, you know what Chicano mean? BM: No. MM: They mean una camina de un hombre. Y la canisa que le sale a uno grande el trae chicana. See, that's the name of the palabra. SM: Like we say. MM: We don't know the meaning. SM: If we see a lot of people together, a lot of Mexicans, together and then somebody else comes and says, well, "Here is the raza," they say Raza because we come out of the Mexican raza, see? Because maybe we come out of the indian out of the Spanish, so is raza together see?