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Show THIS IS AN INTERVIEW WITH RUSSELL JACOBS ON MARCH 3, 2010. THE INTERVIEWER IS MA TT DRISCOLL. THIS IS THE OUTDOOR RECREATION ORAL HISTORY PROJECT. TAPE No. u-2081. MD: Today is March 3, 2010. I'm Matt Driscoll speaking again with Russell Jacobs . To begin with, Russell, I thought we would return to our conversation from our previous talk about environmentalism and how it comes up, if it comes up in climbing. I don't know that I asked this as directly as I maybe should have last time. I kind of asked you about your whatever environmentalist attitudes you might have. But I didn't frame it in such a way to kind of align any sort of environmentalism with the climbing. Do you feel that there's an overlap between those two worlds. RJ: Personally I do. I think there's, they are almost synonymous with each other. I see with the younger generation it's not so anymore. I'm finding climbers that actually participate in smoking. To me that's always been something that goes against the grain. I think they're somewhat irresponsible in how they get rid of the end result. Of course, you find litter and things that they've discarded and it's just, I think in a lot of cases, climbing has become sort of a ... how should I say? Something that everyone wants to do because their friends are doing it; it isn't something that they wanted to do themselves personally. So it's just basically jumping on the bandwagon with their peers. MD: Is that a bad thing for them to come into climbing in that way, but then learn to appreciate it in the way that maybe you do? RJ: Not at all. Not at all. I think introduction to any sport however it happens is good. That's how we learn. That's how we find ourselves. Sport in any genre is beneficial by far. My background has always been in physical fitness, whether it was in swimming or track and field events. I was never one to be in organized sports, even though I tried. I 2 |
