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Show Russell Jacobs 24 February 2010 difficult to find clients. It's never an occupation that you have return clients. And I basically designed just residential housing, unless you work for a corporation, and I did that for a while as well. But it wasn't a steady, full-time job. It was enough money. I could, ya know, work for however long it took to do certain projects, and then I'd go on a sabbatical. The job ended and I'd have a lot of free time to go out and travel. Uh, so I didn't really get a real solid eight to five until I was thirty-three. MD: Ok, when you were thirty-three you started workin' full-time. I mean, obviously, probably at that point it was not gonna stop you from taking big trips to go climbing, right? RJ: No. It didn't. I mean I worked for those times I had off. And every single week was planned for every vacation I had through the year. Luckily I worked for the government, which is fairly liberal as far as vacation time compares to private industry. Uh, and every single week was, uh, off on a climbing trip. Every single week that I had accrued to go on vacation, I had planned to go somewhere, whether it was to Yosemite, which was very often. After two years, even with the county, I was off and climbed El Capitan, and every year prior and after that as well, until I started going to Europe. And I think after ten years working with the county, I think I took three trips to Europe during a decade period, during my profession. MD: So, I think you've sort of already answered this question, but let me just ask it to be sure: did you decide on a profession that would allow you to be a climber, or did you just make climbing work regardless of what profession you took on? RJ: I think more so the latter. I mean, uh, I felt pretty fortunate to work for the local government. At the time I didn't realize how, those benefits that I would soon be using, 2 |