| OCR Text |
Show Russell Jacobs 25 November 2009 MD: Um-huh. RJ: I mean, I, as sport climbing evolved, uh, I think that those younger men that, you know, uh, migrated to that discipline kind of short changed themselves. MD: Um-huh. RJ: Because typically they could go back and they could push a hard 5.11, 5.12, place no protection, everything' s pre-placed, from the person who put the first ascent in and, you know, work it out. It may take them six hours to work out, you know, thirty feet, go home and get hydrated and go to bed. But what they really missed is getting to a place where they can't get back to camp. Where you're stuck by whatever, uh, outside force has prevented you to get back to camp safely. MD: Um-huh. RJ: So, that's what they've missed. That's what they've missed. MD: Something about, uh, there being a challenge that borders on risk? Is that. .. RJ: It is. It's a big risk because it's ... and you have to be smart about it. You have to be smart and ... but that, those instances where you're forced out in the elements, where you can't get back to camp, you don't have the safety of a tent, you don't have the safety of a sleeping bag, it's extremely cold, and, uh, it's life threatening. But you find out within yourself, uh, what you're made of, what you can bear, how much of those hardships the body can handle. Um ... MD: Yeah, I guess most people, um, most people I think in our culture today aren't really aware what all they're capable of ... RJ: No. MD: ... because of the conditions we usually put ourselves in. 3 |
