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Show 24 February 2010 Russell Jacobs were that beneficial, but they are. And it just happened to fit my lifestyle. No, I mean I. .. I knew I needed to, ya know, I mean I didn't wanna be a freelance, um, I didn't wanna work freelance forever. There's not enough security in it. So I think it was good for me that I was able to find a job with the local government. And of all the cities in the county, back then I think there was maybe, ten or twelve, now there's more like sixteen cities in the county. I was lucky enough to get one with the unincorporated county, which offers the best benefits of any city in Salt Lake County. It just happened that way. It was actually a fluke that I even got the job. But I made it work. And knowing, after being there just a short time, that this is probably my best opportunity to be able to do, and travel, ya know, as frequently as I wanted to. But no, this gave me a good means to do what I wanted to do. MD: Yeah, I mean, in a related question, did you make decisions about whether or not you wanted to raise a family, based on your desire to climb, and to travel so that you could climb? RJ: Um ... MD: Told you I was gonna ask you some tough questions today. RJ: My family life-I knew right from the beginning that, right from, ya know , in my twenties and thirties, maybe even before that, um, I wasn't the type to raise a family . I mean there was too many things I wanted to do. And, um, to me it was too big of a sacrifice, um, to have a family. Marriage came in later, much, much later. And at the time, it was, uh, questionable as to whether-ya know, we were both forty. I mean, she was thirty-eight, I was forty. And, she realized at the time, I had no intention of raising children. Um, so, no I, I wanted to travel. I wanted to see the world, as much as I could. 3 |