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Show 2 December 2009 Russell Jacobs MD: Um-hum. But okay, why don't we, uh, talk about a couple of the folks that you found then that were, you know, interested like yourself in being able to climb big walls? RJ: Okay. MD: So, who were some of your early climbing partners? RJ: The, probably the two that come to mind that I probably spent a lot of time in my earlier days climbing, um, was Les Ellison ... um ... MD: How did you meet Les? RJ: He was a graduate student at the university, here, at the time working on a Masters degree. Uh, he was, uh ... he migrated out from the east coast, Vermont. That, uh, I think that's where he, uh, got his background in climbing ... was climbing in an area called the Gunks in New York. Uh, and, uh, so when he came out, uh, we .. .I hooked up and he vice versa hooked up with me. And during those earlier years, he and I were probably ... did more climbing than probably anybody ... any other duo in the area. I mean, Les has done quite a bit of climbing with other partners as well, but I would think that he would say that I was his ... probably a partner that he climbed with more often than anyone else. MD: What were some of the climbs you guys did together? RJ: We did, gosh, we did ... well, we went out to Yosemite, um, together. MD: That was a few years later? RJ:No. MD: 'Cause you said it was about four years after you started climbing that you, um, actually made it to Yosemite? 17 |