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Show Record 3195 jam will usually come in January and February, when the weather 3196 is coldest. Mr. Stanton had a boat that was made in Racine, Wisconsin, shipped to Lee's Ferry and brought up the river from there. I came up with it and I suppose that is the same upstream trip testified to by Mr. Johnson yesterday. 3197 On that occasion I made the trip down to Lee's Ferry in a flat bottom boat and didn't have any real difficulty. I " never encountered any difficulties in going downstream as long as we tried to stay in the middle of the river"; but on that trip we were posting notices and would have to run to No. 1 corner of each mining claim and post a notice stating that the assessment work was being done or had been done. There was also a life boat with us and we carried supplies in the flat bottom boat. " I don't call to mind any time we had any difficulties". I remember no difficulties except sometimes we would have to run in to post the notice and when we would go into the banks we would quite often run aground. There were rapids at Warm Creek, Hanson Creek and Pine Alcove. 3199 With reference to the existence of a ledge in that section running across the river, I know of two places on the river. I did not get acquainted with them on the Lee's Ferry trip, but later I went down to the mouth of the San Juan several times. I remember on one occasion Mr. Stanton's life boat, which had quite a keel on it, struck pretty hard while going through Bull Frog Rapid. Nothing was injured as a result of that striking. Again, at Mr. Shock's camp, the life boat got in difficulty. We went back and helped them over. There are cracks in the bed rock at that place, some of them pretty deep but not very wide. We took an oar and sounded along and could not step across them. We took the boat back up the river and went to the right- hand side, but it still dragged a little and the four of us kind of helped the boat down over there. That was at the Shock Bar. I remember one other place, somewhere below there, where we had a little difficulty of the same |