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Show Record 3035 before Mr. LaRue and his companions came to Lee's Ferry. Aside from the upstream trip with the Stanton boats and a sixty mile trip, I have only made one trip up the river above Warm Creek. On the last mentioned trip I went five or six miles above Warm Creek in a row boat. The sixty- mile trip was also in a row boat. 3036 all of the fifteen men who went with me on my upstream trip with the Stanton boats came back down the river. After we got our boats up to Bull Frog, we rested one day and started back down the next day. The stage of water on the up and down trip was substantially the same. We made the one hundred and thirty- five 3037 miles back to Lee's Ferry in two days. Of course when you run on a sand bar you get out and pull your boat off and go on again. We wouldn't necessarily need to be held up long at any place because there were so many men to help. We moved right along on the downstream trip. Going upstream with the Stanton boats we poled and also rowed some; we also towed some, considerable was towing. 3038 When we came to a good place where we could walk along a bank or a sand bar we would tow; at other places we would row. I have observed that you have less trouble with sand bar obstructions going up than coming downstream; everybody does. Coming downstream, after delivering the Stanton boats, there were seven men in one 3039 boat and eight men in the other. I am familiar with the Johnson outboard motor and have run it on the river. the Johnson outboard motors are equipped in such manner that the silt in the river doesn't get in and cut the bearings as it did with the boats concerning which I have been testifying. They are the only motor I have ever found that is a success in that line; on the others the bearings would only last a few miles, and that was the trouble 3034 with the Edison Company's boats. The Johnson motors with which I am familiar, are equipped with a small pin in the propeller, so that when you hit the sand, instead of twisting the shaft out, it would cut the pin out; you would raise the motor up and shove in 3041 another pin, get the boat off the sand, and go on a gain. An ordi- |