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Show Record shipped in. They were very good boats for almost any kind of water, and we brought back the same boats, and in addition this big launch. We had a hard trip coming up because Mr. Stanton had expected that we could bring the launch up by its own power and it would help the other boats. But it was helpless. We brought it up anyhow, with men. He gave us thirteen men. We were twenty- six days bringing it up. Mr. Stanton expected to use it where he had built the dredge. There was some still water there, but for some season he never did. 3613 They never could have gotten it up by its own power. The engine on the boat would run but it did not do good work. We worked on the engine three or four days at Lees Ferry to try to get it to assist us to take the boat up. We abandoned the idea. The difficulty with the boat was lack of power evidently. The engine would run the pro-pallor but it would not run itself in that current. On this trip back to Hite with the Stanton boat, we could row in still places, by rowing next to the shore and taking advantage 3614 of the current we could row a good part of the way. At all of the rapids we had to tow the boats up by power, - running a line ashore. We were an entire day with the big launch getting it up over the Aztec rapids. I was present at Hite when the equipment which my nephew spoke of was brought in 1889. His statement as to the way it was teamed in corresponds with my recollection. My recollection of the character of the boat or barge that we built corresponds with his description of it. It was more like a big barge, a big flat 3615 boat. I was not on the barge, I saw them going down. I went down with some one else to see them go over the Trachyte rapids. We had to wait a number of days for the river to rise to get water enough to float it. The barge went over the Trachyte rapids all right. There was plenty of water. There was some rough water and there was one or two big boulders that is never covered entirely only in extreme high water. They had to use a lot of skill and muscle to 3616 avoid those rocks. But they did not have any trouble going down. I did not make the trip from Hite down to Tickaboo at |