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Show students from STanford or Chicago who were not Jewish. And I thought, well, it's a broader movement than just us Jewish kids. There is a connection. L: How do you describe the kinds of values that you took from it and have still today? J: Well, through those things I'm always, let's say, if something turns up like a strike, I'm always pro union. Never pro boss until I heard the whole thing out and boy, if the union's at fault, I'm always surprised that the union movement has gone to pot in this country. It's, you know, in my day, at least, the way I thought about it then in college, was the union was in part one of the things that's going to reform the nation. There were two things. There was Roosevelt in the New Deal and they were the unions. Much more simplistic than I like to think I always thought. Very sophisticated, knew a great deal philosophically but I, for instance, was always convinced, well, the slums are obviously bad. The way to get rid of the slums is very simple. You do what the New Deal is doing. You tear down the slums and you build housing projects for the poor, the needy. There were union housing projects going up. The Amalgamated Clothing Workers, the I.L.G.W.U. was doing the same thing. Here were two parallel things helping to wipe out slums. The farm movement, which we knew nothing about or the Scotsborough boys, let's say, down south who you were hoping to save. We knew very little about that in New York. You signed petitions and things like that. 64 |
