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Show 6936 Chaffin- D 4924 A I made several trips; made one or two trips to Hanson creek after supplies; One trip I remember of with the Lucy B. after the engine was taken out. Q When did you first start to do any sailing -- when did you first begin your sailing on the lower Colorado? A Well, the first I remember of sailing much was after we got the engine out of the Lucy B. Q After you started to use the Lucy B. when the engine had been taken out you did a good deal of sailing, did you? went to work for Bennett I stayed on the bar, Mr Herrick and I stayed there and one little placering and watchman; we made several trips to Good Hope; as we would go up there after our mail; we would always sail then; we would wait until we got a day that wind was blowing, and put up our sail and go up; we made several trips. Q Now, up to this time in your testimony, calling four attention to the trips that you have made up stream and down steam, I wish would state that if any difficulties you had with sandbars, and when and where those difficulties would be encountered, if there were any. A I never had any trouble with sandbars unless it was |