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Show • reftimonies atledge-d -fr-o-m- ----------- Difculfer. 1hJt An[wer to the Jlmch of the Ki?f/ irnplyet~ two thin_;,t. 1. 1hat the civil! MJg)Jirate, who u to conj!rame,_ muft p<dge of aD the Con[cierzceJ of their Subjef1J~ whether thry be conv•n_ced or. no. 2 • 1hat when the civiU Magij!rate difcemuh that hu Sub;eliJConf; imceJ are convinced, then he may ~onjlraine them vi & armis, hoflik· ly. And accordingly, who k.:Jowetb not what conjlraint lyeth upon all Confcienw in Old arulNew·England, to come toChurcl7, and top., Church· Dutiu l which u upon the point (though with a Sword of a fimr gilt and trim in New-England) mthing'elfi, but that which!. confej[etb0 Hilary faith , fboul,dnot be done, to wit, a Prot>agation ~ Religion by the Sword. Defender. Ndther of both thefe things areirnplyed in that Anfwer. Not the firft, ( tlut.the civill Magiftrate rnuft then Judge of all of the Confciences of their Subjea:s, whether they be convinced, or no:J For itimpl yeth no more chen that he is not to con ftraine them, till he fee they be convinced. If he never feet hem convinced, hei! co fee, they be never confrrained. But how far the Magiftrate may difcerne,and judge in matters of Religion,hath been fpoken abow. Nor the (econd : For the conftraint I fpake of, was not by pofiti¥1 meanes,vi, & Armu, but negative, wichholdingfuch cruft and em· ployment from fuch, as he feeth are not faithfull and trufty to their God,of whofe Truth they are con'Vinced,and yet withhold it in unrighteoulne!fe.I know no conftraint at all,thatlieth upontht confciences of any in N,w. England, to come to Church: neith~ doe I know that any fcruple lyeth upon any Confcience in Nt"' England, cllat withholdeth any from h~aring the word amongft m. But lcaft of all doe I know, that any are conftrayned to pay €hurch·duties in New-Engliid.Sure I am,noue in our own Tol/!1, neither Church·members,nor ocher, are coAflrained to pay any Church-duties at all. What they pay, they give voluntarily, each one with his owne hand, without any conftraint at all, bunhci~ owne will, as the Lord direCts them. DiCculfer. · Againe, altboughheconfe[fotb, that Prop•gdtion of Religian.,.ght not to be by the Sword; J" he rruintaineth the t<fe of tbe s .. erd, ~tba per[onJ (in tbe Judgmml of the CiviU State, for th•t i< imp/:Jed) fo'l bl•JP~erne the true God, and the true Religion, and alfo Jeduce othmi' damn•blc Herefie and Idolatry, 'f)ejtndtr• Defender. Tr~e: b~t this ~s ~ot the Propagation of Religion but the prefttvatwn of Jt.; onf Jt doe conduce to Propagation, it is onely ,.. •. m!IVendo probtbtnJ. C HAp, 67. A Reply to his Chap. 70, Difcuj?ing the 'l'ejltmony ofTertullian. . Dilculfer TOTertnlli~n, the_Anfwerer givetbtbeli~e An[,er. Tettul!iana Intent ( [atth he) u onely to rejlraine Scapula, tho Romane Gover· -•f A~nca)from perfocuting the Chriftiant,fornotojfering Sacrifitt to thm Heathen GodJ: and for that wd fetcbeth an Argumtnt fromtheL~w of Naturall tquity, nottocompellany to anJReligion hilt to pertmtthem to beleive, or not to be/eive at all, ' , WIJich we. ack~owledr,e : we judge, the Englifh may permit the In· dtan!lo cdntmue m thetr unbel~efe. Nevettbeleffi, it will not therefore h<_lawfo/1 to tolerate thepublick__...,o>jbip of Devi!J,or ldol1, in aCkri• fitan St.dte, or the fidu{Ji•n •f a") from the 'I ruth. In ~hu pa§"f,e, he agreeth with Tertullian : but it u well k._nown, ~bm':New-England, tbq not onely permit the Indians to cantinue Ill tbmun~eleifi,, (which tbrycannot help) butthry alfo permit or tolerate t~r~tn tbetr Paganifl; worjhip, which cannot be denyed to be a rlor{lnppmg ofDeviiJ. And therefore conftquently accordinJ!, to the fame praf1i[e did tbey "•If~.! h,.Rule, and impartially, not onely the Indiam, but th~ir Coun: imen, F~ench_, Du~ch, Spa_nifh, Perfiam, T urkes, Jew~, fbould lfobe permmedm thm Wor{hzp1, if correffrondent in <iviU obedimce. I . Defender. ( ~Is not true, that the New-ETJglijh doe tolerate the JndiJI1J • W ho.have fubmitted to the Engli{b protection, and Governm:nt) 10 t mworfhip of Devils openly. What the lrrdianJ doe that arc nf otunGde r th e E.n g.rra!". G overnment, the Englijh have no' WJrr<mt rom od, or Law of Nations to rcllraine them; nor is it in dre ~w~r ~fdthe Englifl; to reftraine the private Worniip,wbich lome l e " t:z1u under the Engli{h Government may p~bly adhere Ontocoth~' ~ da y. WII lt coude. s have been ufed to bring them on V 2 to |