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Show ·which are to purge out leaven from thdr holy communion,and co ·mortify the Adh of offendors: y~tthar!s not fupe~fedeas to Civill M •gitlmcs,toneglea: to pun1fu thofe fins, wh1ch the· C hurch h•ch i:enfurcd, if thq>crfons c~nfurcd do proceed to f ubverr the truth of the Golpel,or t!ie peac' of tb'e Chnrch, "or the falvation of the p<cpl e.The rdl of th: Difculfers di{courfe in this cha pter ·1arc ( as Jud< fpcaketh)·clouds without water , words without matter. C H A P. 46. A Rep? to h,;, Chap. 46. Difoulfi•g Rom. 1 3. Difculfer. T'"' Scripture Rom. ~3. which it plvfith the Anfwerf:'f 10' quott, how hath b•t h him filfe, and ma'!Y excellent Jirvan I JDf G •d, 'lllrcfted (not aJ Ptter wriwb •J tht wi~ked to their <ternall,ytt) to their own< antl other1 tempor.a/1 deflrul1i•n bJ civi//.,.,arret', and comb,flions in thtworld? Defender, 'fhis charge is a greivous crime,ifit be truly proved: a grci· vous £launder, ifir be not proved. The refr of the Chapter provcth it not, but thatonely which I willingly graunt,that this I 3rh Chapter to the&"'""' exhorreth un:o liibjdl:ion to M;giftrates,& unro love to dl men: which are duties partaining ~o thefecond Table. Howbeit though fob• jetl:ion co Magifrr:itcs, and love to all menbedutieswhichconcerne thcfecond Table(a point which needed no proofe :) yet this inference will rcot here follow, That therefore Magi/hates -have nothing to due co punifu any violation , nctnot of the wei· ghtiefi duties of rhe firfr Table. It is a cleare cafe,amon'gft the duties of the fecond Table, people may be exhorted to honor their Mini!lers, and children may be exhorted to honor their Parcms. But will it thence follow, that therefore Minillers have nothing to doc With mmers ofReligion in the Church, or parents in the ·F'afi!ily ?, , , , . . · · • 1 • • :c Chap. 47· ~ · Kom. 1 ~ Diftujfed. C.H A p. 47· A Reply to'f1is Chap. 47· . Difculfer. , THtrebt excellent and prtcioUI fervantJ .j God i;, their time, 'rviJo bilVe ~bfolure'.J r.hnyed tbe 13. of th• R.om. to concerne any rtultl!r of tbr Ji•ft . Tabk. ' . ·Defender. ' I will not lland upon the !aft ufe in tha~ Chapter, plit you 6i1 the Lord Jefus Chrifr: which I hope the Difcuffir himfclfe will not-deny,inuch lelfe fay, th1t any Excellem and precious fetvJnfs of God, doe abfolutelydeny,~har: fuch a Duty concerneth·the :fir(l :fable. -But what is it that the fervams of God fay? Difculfer. • · Calvinfoitb,-thin~hole Difiwrfo concermth CiviO M•giJiratei: and tbmfore in vaine dot tbrJ who txercife Power over Confciences, 'gee about from thifplace to eftablijb their focrilegiotl! 1jranllJ. Defindf:'f. c .tvinl Judgement herein (as generally in other ·pOints) is found and agreeable to the Text : but nor at a!Vfavoutin'g'tli~ Difcu§m ·Imagination. This whole Difputation:( faitb-~!) iNlf Civill Governments : whereupon this irifetence i~ ( 1iccording<to hi! owne true meaning and fcope) therefore it ·doth nor :coticerrl'e 'Church-Government. Therefore fuch Church-Govetn6Ufs : ;~s up~n pretence of this Text doe m tke Lawes.·, without 'th<dvorli, and befidesrhe word, to bind Gonfcience, ·and to ' ufurp lpower over Confciences, they in vaine goe about to eflabli!h ·their il\{cril< gious Tyranny from this place. -Bm wharisthis ' to the•poirit in hand? Church•G overnoors doe·in_ VJine g~e about from 'this P~•ce co ·eltablilh their S.ccrilegious Tyranny by ·giving Latves without the word, and befide the word ro bind , Confcirrtce': The•efore Civil! Magi ii rares, ( uf whom chis whole Difcourfe is) fiull ex~rcHo a !acrilegious Tyranny over tho C onfcienc, •nd in vaine ~;oe about to eihblifu it from r hi~ pb ce, when f rom the W<Jfd of God, theyeflJblifh true Religi<Jn, and g?e ab ~ltc to plfninHhe Fundamema:l licbvercers of rhe fame. Bm how farre off :c~lvinJ }Jdgemcntwasro relhaine C ivil! M·~i fl r.Hrs fro ·n mcJ. ling in mmers of Roligion, lee him i.Herpret hi.Hielfe 'iol his own 0 W<'fdS |