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Show J66 r I a • • ,• A ' \1 .,tt•r~'/ ,._• \'f. a • ~ " 'J{,one compelled to be are tbe word in Ne~-Englana. The Difc~tffir fomedmes endeavoured co draw away t~e Church of Salem( whereof he was fometime Teacher) from holdmg Com· munion with all the Churches in the By, becaufe wee tolerated our Members ro hrare the wmd in the Parifhes ol }.ngland. Wee to (11 idi~ h)m in tbat, held forth ( thar which here he calleth a varnilb) thathearingwasa q .mmor Duty lyingupon all men, where the word of God was truly taughr. He rcplyed,as he doth now, that TeachinJland hearing in a Church-Efiate is Church worlbip, A Us 2. 46: To which we gave Anfwer (as now againcJ 'That thoqgh Teaching and being taught in a Church·Eflatc be Church-wor!hip, (according to Al1s 2. 46. ) yet it is not a · Church-worlbip, but to fuch as are in a Church-Eftat<. To all it is an holy Ordinance of Gods worthip, and a Chriftian Duty. And though Teaching and he~ri:lg doth imply a Relation, yet not a Church-relation. There is a relation between a Tea· cher, and a Learncr,in any Art, or Knowledge: and there may be a nearer relation between a Preacher and an Hearer, in cafr the Hearer be begotten to God by fuch a Sermon. ( e¥en the fame If' lation as is l;mween afpirituall Father, and Sonne:)but thit doth f)pt a,mount toChurch· relarion,and Communion, till there paiTe fome mutual! profeiTion of Covel)ant ( explicit or implicit) betw<en them. A Pagan Infidell may come into a Chrifiian Church-AffemQiy to heare the word, and may be convinced and conver.ted by ir, (as fuppofe he in. CoriRtb, ·1 Corinthi•nr 14. 241 25.) yet is be not therefore joyned in Church-Eftate, and Fellow• lhip with them, without profeiTion of acknowledgement, and ac· ceptance. Difcuffer. Secondly, all per {om ( P apift, and Protejlant) that are Confoimtiollf have a/wayu foffired uptm .thu ground efPecially, that thry haverrfit' fed to c~me to eacb other~ Cbmch, or meeting. . Defwder. It is to0 large an Hyperbole, to atlirme, that all perfons that ar< Con!Cientious ( whecber Pa.pift, or Proteflant,) have alway~ fuflered uron thisgr<,und. Are no men confcientic"' bm fuchas hav~ fuff~ted upon this g1·ound? are there not many that weron<' Ver PP~ upon this Tt·yall l and are not many confcientious,_that never lcrupleJ this point? and .re there not many ccnfcienuou~ that The P apifts Teft imony of Perfecution difcuff ed. that have fuff:reJ U"p.>n other pllinu, thu never li.Jff,..ed upon this point? Befidestho~gh manyconfcientious Protefhms and Papifisdoe re!Ufe to he are I~ each others AiTernbly, or Church, it is not becaufe fuch hear111g doth implant them into their Church-State: but out of feare to be leavened with their corrupt Dofrrine or polluted with fome other·part of lalfe worfhip. ' CHAP. 71· A '1\,tplyto/;~s Chap. 74· Touching the 7e}i,;ony of the 'Papifts ag.unft Perfecution. Dl!i:ulfer. AS[~ tke 'leflirwmyof t!'e Popijb Boo~ ( foith tbe Anfwerer) wee <r1<1gh Jt not: M k.!Jowmg what ever they {}<a~ for toleration of Rtliglon, where themfelves are untkr H•tches: yet when themfelvet ~~to ~t :''Sterne? t~'! Judge an_d pram{e 'fUite contrary: at both tbtir wrmng1, and )HdwaU proceedmgs have ttjlifted to tbe world thefo •"'J ytar<J. , Jut (fur An[r7er to him) though both thdr writing! and·pral1ijil b~~t<bttnfuch: yet the Scriptures, and exprejfions of 'truth aUedged by lbtm,doejpe~loudlya,dfu/Jyfo>' them, that wherttbey are under tbt Ha~ches tbty fhould not be fm>thered, bHt foffired I• breath and walft opontbe Decks in the •ire ofciviU Liberty. Defender, Rtply. 1. When the Author of the Letter calleth that Popilb Booke (out of which he quoteth that Teftimony) a wick~d Book, wbym•ynotthatTeftim.>ny be a wickedTelHiUony, (as by his owne Judgement) the Booke, a wicked Booke l Rtply. 2 .It is true, which they f>y, the meanes which AlmightyGod _appointed for the converfion of Kingdomes, was Humilitr, Pu1ence and Charity : neither doe wee allow any meanes of ~four for Converfion of Coules, but onely the power of Spiritn- · 1~rmour. . Q, ~dstrue.alfowhich they allcdge out of Mmb. 10. 16. 'I'bat "r {em hu Apojll<ltH fbeep int<J> the midjl of Wolve~ : Ht did not fend |