Louis Zucker,Salt Lake City, Utah: an interview by Hynda Rudd and Ralph DeRose, September 1 & 4, and October 24, 1972, January 25, 1973 and June 1, 1977

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LOUIS ZUCKER #1 the women in the offices, the secretaries. I was going to say there are the two men whom I think did more for me than any others. There were others who did something for me one way or another. But the two men whom I think did the most for me, whom I am most grateful to have had were: one, a professor of Latin, and the other, a professor of English. The professor of Latin had been this professor of this high school Latin teacher of mine. Mr. Boice used to say sometimes, "If you go to the University of Pennsylvania and you have Professor Gibbons, he will want you to know this and this." When I came to the University of Pennsylvania, I wanted Profes­sor Gibbons. As it happened, I was assigned to someone else and a friend of mine, a very close friend of mine, was assigned to Professor Gibbons. After the first class, this friend of mine said, "I do not want to be in that class. I am going to have to work too hard. " We ex­changed, and I was in Professor Gibbons's class after all. All we did that whole first year was read two essays by Cicero. That was his last year of teaching. The De Amicitia on friendship and De Senectute on old age. I think we read De Amicitia first then De Senectute. Sometimes we would do no more than one Latin sentence in an hour. Not 44