Louis Zucker,Salt Lake City, Utah: an interview by Hynda Rudd and Ralph DeRose, September 1 & 4, and October 24, 1972, January 25, 1973 and June 1, 1977

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LOUIS ZUCKER #1 decorator of the mansions of the Polish gentry, who were Catholics and had a tradition of Jew hatred. My grandfather and my father earned their living chiefly by working for the Polish gentry. When my father was old enough, my grandfather would send him to this aristocrat and the other to collect. These boys mostly were broke. They squandered their money in Paris. They were not too prompt about paying the Jew, whoever he might be. My father came as a man. Not as a boy. As a man to this and the other Polish aristocrat to col­lect. The aristocrat would send his dogs out to drive the Jew away. My grandfather, it had to be that way. - "You know, we are Jews, and it has to be like that." My father had the spunk not to want to tolerate this mode of life. As I tell this, it has a certain amount of anthro­pological interest, I suppose. He and my mother were childhood sweethearts. After they were engaged, my father arranged a secret tryst with my mother. If this had been found out, of course, the community would have been horribly scandalized. My father requested the secret tryst, and like I say, they were childhood sweet­hearts. So my mother met my father, and all he wanted to tell her was this: "I am going to America. If you want to be married to me, you have to agree to go to Ameri- 2