Spanish speaking peoples in Utah, oral histories: book 9, numbers 91 through 101

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INTERVIEW: Lopez Page 5 wrong, I think it ought to be in groups. I would like to s~it united, even though with different ideas, but still the same goal, you know. Because if we don't do that, we're going to be the same shape we were twenty, thirty or forty, or fifty years back. It was the same thing. Like the revolucionaristas [revolucionarios] in Mexico, they had one leader. Thousands of people would follow that leader, but if they kill that leader, everything went to hell. Nobody could follow it. Take the Japanese war, it was the same thing, they had it you know, their leaders, their captains or whatever what, but if you kill that captain, all the soldiers will run, different directions, then it take you years to get them back again. And I think this is what's happened with our leaders, you know, all over. I think if we'd of worked like we've been trying now to change this, to unite all the leaders, all the organizations, all the Indian tribes and all the Chicano's organizations into one round table, where we can have a nationwide power then. And I don't mean the power to overrun, overthrow, and anything like that, but I mean with the same idea, where it can be a nationwide thing, instead, because we've travel a lot, and it's, is bad say, well we say food stamps, for instance, which is one of the biggest issues, if they got