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Show 10 INDIANS WI'.ST OP THE IJOCIvV MOUNTAINS, they could be. moved iu this way much cheaper than by an attempt to force them with military power. Say, " W e will secure you laud, build you houses, and give you a cow," anil the greater number of tho Indians will go. Mr. LOWE. Will they live in houses ? Major POWELL. Yes, s i r ; some are living in houses now, which they have built for themselves; and many others are begging t h a t the Government shall build them houses. Mr. I.OWE. We built houses for them in Kansas, and soon lifter found that, the Indians were living iu the bush, and keeping their cows in houses. The. CirAluMAN. Iu this estimate, which amounts to 6-100,000, do you include the expense of removal ? Major POWELL. Yes, sir, everything. I think we should look this ' thing squarely iu the face, and count the future cost. It is probable that the same amount will be needed for oneor two years-more. After that the appropriations could be greatly reduced. It should not be expected that all the 'Indians would come the fust year. They must have time to think about il, and talk about it, and for those who are most reluctant to witness the results of the labor of those who arc willing to go at first, and a great many are now willing. Past year the appropriations for these same Indians were nearly 6200,000; so that the appropriations must be. doubled in order to consolidate the Indians as I have indicated. Mr. MCNULTA. What extent of territory would they abandon? • .Major POWELL. About -120,000 square miles. TheCilAlHMAN. Then, summing up the question, it would cost to carry out your plan 6200,000 more, than is now expended on the Indians of that country, and they would release that amount of land t Major POWELL. Yes. sir, and the number of agencies would be reduced from seven to four, and the reservations from seven to four. The increase iu the appropriation should be used in enabling them to work. We think no food or clothing should be issued to the Indians as a gratuity. He should be fed and clothed only for work done on the reservation, except in the case of aged and infirm people. The CIIAITOIAN. What will you do with those who will not work? Major POWELL. When an Indian finds he can get his dinner more easily by working for you than by digging roots ho will prefer to work for you. It has been my observation everywhere, except in Colorado, that the Indians are begging for land. They say, " P i x i t so t h a t we can stay here, and so white men cannot take this hind from us and we can get a living for ourselves." Some of them are beginning to raise cattle, • . ami a few chiefs have from twenty to Jilty head, though this is exceptional. The CIIAIKMAN. Would you recommend under any circumstances • pitying Indians anything in money? .Major POWELL. I think not unless under extraordinary circumstances. They tire apt to use it in gambling. 1 think also'that, ready-made, clothing should not bo given them. They should be supplied with good substantial fabrics. They all understand'making their own clothes, and the same amount spent for fabrics would go further than in ready-made clothing, and .would give quite as much satisfaction to the Indians themselves. In the mean time they would be compelled to do some work. No tents should be given them; as long as they have tents they can move about the country and continue their nomadic habits; but Cx tliein in houses and give them a little property and they have a home to ''•">• no- and property to preserve, aud they become at once interested in the rights of property. k J , ' * ' » . w . , . ,, P'. ., . The C'll M-.-rr. , i. Major ]'.,-.!,, Uintah. (.»,, .,„ . "•' m e n , Wiiii:, :, i „ 0 , 1 the i v - i ,Y ,„/,'.' ,' Shanks, n„. , a, _ "_ past year. .!.. •'.' ThcPiu:...,;.:'•". '•'! to be iil,-,,.,,i: Major I',,-* , . . ».._, t h e Indian..-' >.,., •,.. Arizona,;,..,; - , tali Vall.-v.ij. ,..,..". west uf .•".:•. '.:',. _ rcservitiii.ti v they rt'iviw », .-.,.., . western .v...,:•..,, J[all,a> !.,(.••; .. .. lion the I V . . .... ..;. itieslij tin-.,- ...', eastern t >i<-. ,, ..., a r e titulir t.-». . . . . may ih-n rmi.i i... «... The Piil.-I :••.•• '•. foriiia air i' i'- ••< • • t h e riven •>• • to the ri!«« i - all the i<Mi! ••• • away by i t " '-> - l l l l l l l l i e l • ••- '•••*' • •• coiiri'rin.;; : '•' ' "" " fully set /«*••* '<• •"•• ""• here. «w»r. ini i .'. i . i . i . , , , nva ,ixj&*cv3r»-v«w'\-~ • |