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Show 62 moved, I would have sold my herd off prior to the time that it occurred, because there is just no chance for survival in that particular area at this point. Mr. MATHESON. YOU may have started to answer the follow- up question I was going to ask which is: If we were able to develop better predictive capabilities such that you had more advanced warning about going into a sustained drought, are you given better flexibility with that advance warning to take action than is the case today? Mr. BOWLER. I think, had I have known for a certainty last spring things were going to be as severe as they have have been, I would have- I did, by the way, go up to a little community called Kanosh that I thought had sufficient water supply and I tried to rent some irrigated pastures in that area because of the drought I had experienced in the last couple of years. That turned out that everybody in Southern Utah wanted that same piece so I didn't get it. My son is today looking at going clear into Northern Nevada where they have larkspur. And I said, " Gee, if you take them there that larkspur is going to kill them," and he said, " I would rather have them die from the larkspur than here where I can see what happened." Mr. MATHESON. There may be benefits if there is better predictive capability. I have one more question, it was for someone else, that is Mr. Morgan. MANDATORY WATER USAGE GUIDELINES Mr. Morgan, you spoke extensively about the state's ineffective water restrictions and encourage use guidelines. Whenever I drive around and see Utahans watering concrete, and when I look out of my office windows and see the Federal Building watering its concrete, which is something we will take care of in talking to folks there, I am just wondering if we are moving toward where there will be a mandatory aspect to the water guidelines, or if there will be penalties considered, or where you think we are heading with these guidelines as we move further into the drought situation? Mr. MORGAN. Unfortunately, it is really difficult exacting any punitive damages because we don't control the water users. People like Mr. Ovard, that community purchases the water wholesale and retail. I live in Sandy City. If I turn on my sprinkler system after 10 AM and before 6 PM I am subject to a fine. So I think other communities need to take this effort. There has been a considerable effort to get state agencies to comply. The DOT, even higher education seems to be oblivious to these problems and yet once we call it to their attention they generally comply. But I think that's mandatory, we have to force them. Mr. MATHESON. I will just ask Mr. Ovard as well. Are you looking into going to that level, where you may have punitive measures for violating guidelines? Mr. OVARD. It is going city- by- city, district- by- district type thinking. Right now we are hoping we get through the summer but we are going to check again in another 30 days. The real trial will come in August and September. If we have the type of fall that we had last year, it could be very difficult. So I am not comfortable as I see the levels in Deer Creek. Right now there is some Central |