Lowell S. Flamm, Pleasant View, Utah: an interview by Winston P. Erickson, February 14, 2000: Saving the legacy tape no. 183 and 184

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OW LL . AMM them. We got that done most of it don in about two da . h n n th 11 a deck of cards out, and we played Pinochle for th next w ek. n guy uld b th guard watch, and three of us played Pinochle. And the beauty of it was b cau th r had been water down in there, the temperature was one hundred and fifteen in the shade and the only shade was down in the hole. And because we were down in the hole the water made it like a swamp cooler. So, we were at about seventy degrees down in this hole, and the rest of these guys were out there with these guns shooting at targets and drilling. That was the very best punishment I'd ever had. Now, we stayed there at Camp Hahn for about three months. We came back to Riverside at Camp Hahn and I had applied for OCS. There had been about four of us that had passed the test. I can recall taking the written and oral tests. You could not take the test unless you had an I.Q. of t 100 or above. I can remember one fellow there had an I.Q. of 102 and he wanted to go to OCS so bad he could taste it. And, although my two brothers and brother-in-law were all officers, I'd been in the National Guard. And, being an officer didn't mean anything to me, but I put in for OCS anyway. And, on the oral exam, he made me do algebra tests. He stood me up against a blackboard and he'd make me do a problem. And I'd do a problem and he'd say, "Are you sure that's absolutely correct?" And I'd say, "Yes, sir." I never knew whether it was correct or not. He would say, "Is that absolutely correct?" And I'd say, "Yes, sir, that's absolutely correct." As soon as we got back to Camp Hahn at Riverside, I got word that I'd been called into the commanding officer's office. And, he said "Well you've made OCS." And, I said, "Well, that's fine." I started to walk out of ' ' 25