Malcolm J. MacGregor, Park City, Utah: an interview by Benjamin Bahlmann, January 3, 2002: Saving the legacy tape no. 476, 477, and 478

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Malcolm J. MacGregor u Luftwaffe, and there was still quite a lot of it in the summer of 1944 would ju t t British Lane's. They would probably shoot a lot of them down cause the Lane s w r n t designed to fly daytime. They were designed for night flight. r th Anyway, we went to Berlin and, by then, my pilot, Bud Williams had been made a lead pilot. They didn't make the whole crew, they just took the pilot and copilot and the enlisted men and made them the lead plane. When I went to Berlin I was flying with a fellow named Bernstein and he obviously had a Jewish name and, I guess, he was Jewish. He really wanted to win. He really wanted to kill Germans and win the war. All I wanted to do was get my missions over and go home. I wasn't that interested, personally. He was mad because our group leader, when we got to Berlin, actually our target, that's the only one I ever flew that we didn't have a specific military target, but when we went to Berlin it was just bomb Berlin. Get over Berlin and drop your bombs. So our group leader- wisely, in my opinion- chose to go a little bit south of Berlin, southern edge of Berlin. We were still over Berlin and we did what we were told but the flak wasn't as heavy as it was right over the center of the center of Berlin. Our pilot was mad that we hadn't gone right over the center of Berlin. There was still a lot of flak, it was very heavy and very accurate, but we got home ok. There was one mission that I remember and I was still flying in the nose turret. We were chugging along and they always told us where the flak was supposed to be in briefings, and so they had briefed us and there wasn't supposed to be any flak in this one place that we were flying, and all of a sudden we started picking up flak. We picked it up for the longest time and I 49