Mary Camilla Howe Sims, Midvale, Utah: an interview by Becky B. Lloyd, March 22, 2004: Saving the legacy tape no. 650

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M R MILL HOW IM R H 22 2 04 ur n ugh w got to se h r. I said • W 11 that s fin . That a f th thing r ally wanted most. ' Oh, it was fun. We met quite a few American . W d m t p pi who d been over there for their honeymoon and then were coming back for their fifti th wedding anniversary. This lady, she was from St. Louis, and I said You know I miss St. Louis." I missed it after we came out here because we had such wonderful neighbors there. We had a neighbor there, who was a very dear friend, who lived across the street. When we moved to the suburbs, we lived with my mother the first year. We should have had a medal for that. Oh she was a nice lady, I guess (laughs). Anyway, we moved to the suburbs and the lady across the street came over and she said she was having a new baby. She wasn't a bit happy. She said, '"I didn't plan on this." She had already three. I said, '"I wouldn't mind having another one now," because the kids that I had were in school. It's much easier. Sure enough, two months later, I was pregnant with Bernard. So Bernard and this little John (the neighbor's son), they became just inseparable. They played summer baseball together, but not on the same team. They were on rival teams. But they all had a big time. And Mike Hefti next door was about the same age too. We'd baby sit back and forth. It was just so great, so it was difficult to leave, but it was a promotion. Then we came here. We could have lived at Dugway, but, oh, it's so horrible out there. It's in the desert. BEC: You could have lived at Dugway? MAR: We could have. BEC: Oh, yes. 23