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Show ,. ' ------ ~-4-.~---A-S-p-ee-c-=-h-,t-IJ t-=h-e-:K~i:-ng-,-co_n_ce-r~nt-;:.n~g:ti.L.:Je;:-:G~ri;:ev:a:n:c:eJ~oft_he BI!Ufe· . --'---- of your Grace upon it; And accept of ~ur_ good In ten nons; And h J hem by your benign Interpretation. el A1 j mofi humbly . to crave, a particular pardon, for m fe1l'th~~1~ave llfed thefe few words~ Aad.fcarcely, fhould h Y. b' ble to have ufed any at all, In refpe& of the Rev eave eena ' r dJ d t h dlnot renee whichlbear, toymuPerton=> an ubge~enE a. been fomewhat relieved, and comforted, y t e xper~ence~ which in my Service_, aud Acceffe, I have had, of your contmuall c ,·a-ce and Favour. ) ------------.....-:.--- A Speech of the Ki~gs Sollicitour, ufed unto the Lords, at a Conf~rence by Commiffion , from the ConlffiOJ?lS; Moving, ami p;~fwading th_e Lords to joyn witb the Com- 1110ns in Peti tton to the Ktng ; To obtazn Ltbcrty, to treat, ·of a Compofition, with I~ is Majefty, [or Wends, and 'f enures : ln the Parliament, 7°· Jacobt. T. He Kn.ights, Cittizens, and Ettrgef[es, o~the Houfe o~ Commons, have commanded me, to deliver to your LordJlnfs,the caufes ,of the Conference,by tbeQl prared,and by your Lordjhtps af~ fen ted-, for the iecond Bujinefr, of this ?ay • . ~hey have had Report made unto them faithfully, of his Mri:Jifiu:s Anfwer, decl.ared by My L. Treafure:, touching their humble D.dire, to obtatn Liberty, from his Majefty~ to treat, ofcompoundmg f~r Te~ures. And firO', they think th_emfelves, _much bomild untohts 114aJefiJ; That, in Jte nova, _in wh1ch cafe J!rmces ufe.to be a ppr~henfive, he hath made a grac1vus Confirachon, of thetr Propofiuon. An<i f~ much they know of that, that belongs to the Greatnefs of hJ!> Majefty, and-the Gre~tnefs oft he Caufe; As themfelves ackn?wledge, they ought not, to have expected a prefent '!efi:lut;on ; Though the Wije-Man faith; Hope deferred -H the F a:ntmg_of~he Sm1l. But they know, their Duty to be'· to a~tend his Ma;eft~es Times, at his good pl~afure_. A~d they do It, wtth .the more ~om. fort, becaufe in that hts Ma;eftu~s Anfwer, (Mat.chm_g the .T1m~s, a·ad weighing the Paffages ~hereof,) they conceive, In theu Opt• nion, rather Hope, then Dtfcouragement. But the principall Caufes, of the Conference, n_ow prayed; (Befides th~fefignifications ofDuty, not to be omitted ; ) Are two Propofttions. The one, Matter ofExcu.J!,of themfelves: The other Matter of Petition.The former of whtch growes thus. Your Lord- Jbip/my L.Threafurer) in your laft declaration, o! his MajeJi.zes Anfwrr, (which accordiLlg to the Attribute, then gtve_n unto It, had Imaginem C£faris,fair, and lively,graven,) made this true, and effeetuall Dilhibution: That fhere depended upon Temeres) Confiderations of Honour; of Confcience; And ofVtilit; : Of thefe three, Vtility,as his M~jefly .fet it by ,for the pre fen t, out of the <;]rcatne~} A Speecb about Wards, and LiverieJ. 43 of his Ml~d .; ~owe fet it by, out of the ]~0:~-;-LTe, of our Deli res: For.we never ment, but agoodlyj and worrhy Augmentarion of the Profit, now received, and not a Diininution. But, (to fp~ak truly,) that Conjderation falleth naturally to be examitled, when Liberty o[Treaty IS grahte~ : But the ~ormer Two, indeed, may exclude Treaty; And cut It off, before It be admitted. Neverthelefs, in this that we fhall fay ,concerning tho!e Two, \Vedefiretobe conceived rightly: Wemean not, todifpute with his Majefly, whut belongeth to So-veraign Hono1tr, or his Princely Confciutce; Becaufe we know, we are not capable to difcern them; Otberwife, then as Men ufe, fometimes, to f~e the Image, of the Sun, in a Pail of Water. But this we fay for our (elves; Gocl forbid,th~t we> knowingly,iliou'd have propounded any thing, that rnought, in our Senfe, and perfw:dion, touch, either of both : 1\nd therefore herein we defire to be heard, not to cnform, or p erf wade his Mttjejly, but to free, and excufc, our fdves. And firfr, in generall, we acknowledge, ihat this Tree ofTe- · msret, was Planted, into t he Prerogative, by the ancient c_ommon Law of this Land: That it hJth been Fenced in, and Preferved, by many Statutes; And that it yieldeth, at this day, to the King~ . the Fr111t, of a great Rcvenne. But yet notwirhfbnd ing, if up· . on the Stemme,"ofthis Tree, may be raifed a Pillar, offupport tC? the CrvWit, Permanent, and durable as the iVlLrble, by in veiling the Crown, with a more ample, more certain, and more loving; Dowry, then this ofTenltres3 we hope we propound no Matter of D-iHervice. But to fpeak, 9ifl:inctly) of both, and fi rfr of Hono11r. Wherein, [pray your Lordjhips,give mt leave, in a £ubjecr, that may feem, ri1pra Nos, to handle it, rather as we are capabl e, then as the Matter, per hap~, may require. Your Lordfbips well know, the various Mixture, and Compofltioo, of our Ho11{e. We have, in our Ho11{e, learned Civilians, that profefs a Law, that we reverence; aod fometimes con(ult with: They c:1n tell us, that all the Lawr de Fcodh, are but Additionals, to the Ancient Ci'TJi!l ?-aw'; And that rhe Roman Empcroltrs, in the full Heigr h of their Monarchy, never knew them; So that they are not Impl ri,~ll. We have grave Pro. feffour~, of the Common Law, who will define unto u~, that tho(e are Parts of Soveraignty, and oft he Royall rrer()gatives which cannot be communicated with Subjetls:But for Tenures, in fubfrance, there is none of your Lordfhipr, but ha.ve them ; And few of us) but have them. The Ki11g, indeed, hath a priority, or firfi Service, of his Tenures; which !hewe9, that they are not RegaU, nor any point of Soveraignty. We have Gentlemen, of honourable Service, in th~ 1-Vars, both by Sea and Land; Who can enfonn us, that when it is in quefrion, who fh'all fet his foot, fo'remoft, towards the Enemy, it is never asked, whether he hold in Knights Service, or in Socage. So have we many Deputy Lievte1ta11ts, G 2 to I |
