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Show photographer we started our 63 boat journey from a point 8 miles below the mouth of the San Juan and went thence 70 or . 72 miles down the river to Lees Ferry . When I left I figured on coming back upstream with my row boat and ( didn't didnt ) expect to be carried by a motor boat . ( R . 2424 , Vol . 13 . ) When I took the 1907 trip with Russell and ( Monette Alonette ) , Monette had never rowed a boat across the river and Russell might have been on some river before but he had never before seen a rapid . Neither of these men had ever before seen the Colorado River so far as I know . I myself was not then familiar with the Colorado River below the Stanton dredge but ( "I I ) ( had bad ) done a whole lot of boating on the San Juan in 1894 and 1895 . " ( R . 2426-7 , Vol . 13 . ) ( I 1 ) have gone up the Colorado river with my boat for nearly as many miles as I have gone down it , but I rowed upstream ten per cent of the time and towed ninety per cent . ( R . 2431 , Vol . 13 . ) Generally speaking there is no difficulty in avoiding sand waves by getting off either to one or the other side of the stream . ( R . 2437 , Vol . 13 . ) Aside from my trip with the government party the longest consecutive trip I have taken on the San Juan was my boat trip in August , 1894 . ( I 1 ) would say that the greatest number of miles that I have traveled along the San Juan without being interrupted at all by getting out of my boat or by portaging or otherwise would be 5 ( miles'but milesbut ) that is a mere guess . ( R . 2448-9 , Vol . 13 . ) In 1921 , when I was at ( Fowler's Fowlers ) camp , 17 or 18 miles below the mouth of Rock Creek on the Colorado River in Glen Canyon , I borrower ( Wimmer's Wimmers ) outboard motor boat and went 15 miles up the river and back in ( that t1hat ) boat . I had never before operated an outboard motor boat . I had no trouble in going either up or down the river with Mr . ( Wimmer's Wimmers ) boat . ( R . 4862-4 , Vol . 27 ) . William L . ( Maws Marrs ) testified : In 1921 and 1922 ( I 1 ) was employed by the ( California-Edison CaliforniaEdison ) Company on the lower Colorado . Exhibit 408 is a , picture of a power boat I operated on that river ; it was 26 feet long , 5 feet ( wide Nvide ) , a tunnel stern boat with propeller , and was brought to Lees Ferry in August , 1921 . On our first river trip we left Lees Ferry with a crew of three persons and seven or eight passengers and supplies ; the propeller would kick all the water out of the tunnel and the ( boat boaL'l boaLl ) would settle on the sand and when we would drift back a ways we would lose |