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Show Orson J . Carson testified 14 : I live in Farmington , New Mexico , and have been in that section for ( forty-three fortythree ) years . ( R . 533 , Vol . 3 . ) ( I 1 ) recall the flood of 1911 . ( R . 534 , Vol . 3 . ) ( I 1 ) recall one occasion when the San Juan River was practically dry . The only ( big- big big ) flood on the San Juan River that I recall is that of 1911 . We have heavy rains when there will be a rise in the river , but so far as I know , there has only been that one big flood . ( R . 536-7 , Vol . 3 . ) Parley Rogerson Butt testified : I live at Dove Creek , Colorado . I went to Bluff in the same expedition with Mr . Kumen Jones . ( R . 542 , Vol . 3 . ) ( I 1 ) have not been down the San Juan River between Bluff and its mouth but have forded it at Mexican Hat and at Clay Hill . ( R . 544 , Vol . 3 . ) We only forded the river when it was low ; it would pretty near swim our horses sometimes , and sometimes the water only came up to about their knees . ( R . 545 , Vol . 3 . ) James McEwen testified : I live at Dolores , Colorado . ( R . 571 , Vol . 3 . ) ( I 1 ) saw the San Juan River once when it was almost dry below Shiprock , New Mexico ; the farmers above had taken all of the water out . I cannot fix the date of this dry year , but it was somewhere between 1898 and 1906 . ( R . 575 , Vol . 3 . ) ( Guy Gity ) S . Newkirk testified : In 1923 , ( I 1 ) went to the San Juan River to survey some ( prospectingi prospecting ) permits . We forded the river below Bluff at ( about -about about ) the mouth of Chinle Creek , and also near Moonlight Creek . ( R . 582 , Vol . 4 . ) The water at these fords was a foot and a half or two feet deep . ( R . 584 , Vol . 4 . ) Frank H . Hyde testified : I am 60 years old and live at Salt Lake City , but before that spent all my life after reaching the age of 10 years in the San Juan River country in Utah . ( R . 592 , Vol . 4 . ) In operating our trading post we had a ferry boat operated on a cable at the mouth of Comb Wash . The Indians would ride on to this boat with their ponies and loads and thus be taken across the river . ( R . 597 , Vol . 4 . ) When the placer miners were working on the river they built some boats and went down the river to the bars in their boats , and I have twice taken a boat down the river from Montezuma to Bluff and from Bluff to Rincon at the mouth of Chinle Creek . ( R . 606 , Vol . 4 . ) 1 have |