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Show as first boatman and then as 46 cook . Mr . Nims who was on that expedition seemed to be a keen observer of facts . ( R . 1944-5 , Vol . 10 . ) ( I 1 ) never observed any sand waves during any of my trips on the Green or Colorado Rivers . In our mining operations I never heard of any government permits and know nothing about any government permits for our placer mine . ( R . 1958 , Vol . 11 . ) Exhibit 233 is a picture of Aztec Fort located below Bowknot Bend on the Green River . We there found where the Cliff Dwellers had ( irri- irri ) gated probably 200 acres on the river bottom and found a ditch some 60 feet above the river ; we could trace out their ditches and laterals . There was no sign of any trail ( indi indi- indi ) ¬ cating how they got in or out of there . ( R . 1962-3 , Vol . 11 . ) The Major Powell was 35 feet long with two ( 6-horse- 6horse ) power engines , and in my opinion that is not sufficient horsepower to utilize on the Green River . If we had had more horsepower we could have come up the river better . The current of the river was our principal trouble and more horsepower would have overcome that . ( R . 1978 , Vol . 11 . ) Elmer Kane testified : In the summer of 1888 ( I 1 ) made a raft trip from Grand Junction to Moab . ( R . 1984 , Vol . 11 . ) We could not get a boat at Moab with which to continue our journey on down the river as we had intended so went from there to Salt Lake . Placer miners whom we saw on the river above Moab had a flat bottom skiff which they had used when they came down from Grand Junction . We also saw small boats used by people who lived on the river to cross back and forth . ( R . 1985-7 , Vol . 11 . ) In 1889 ( I 1 ) left Crescent Creek in December with the Stanton party . We used two pairs of 9 or 10 foot oars in each boat ; the boats were overloaded . No rough water bothered us but with the cargo and , passengers the boats would sink down level with the water and were hard to handle . ( R . 1992 , Vol . 11 . ) We got stuck on sand bars . ( "There There ) were certain channels that would let a boat through , if you followed them and could follow them . " We would decide on a place to run through and probably would get through all right , but at times would have to drag the boats or push them ; then for a few miles we would have smooth water of sufficient depth . We ( vould would ) find these conditions every few miles through Glen Canyon and also in the stretches above Cataract Canyon . ( R . 1993-4 , Vol . 11 . ) ( Be- Be ) tween ( Kite Hite ) and Lees Ferry we encountered quite a number |