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Show 164 Charles A . . Gibbons testified : I first went to Hitc on the Colorado River in the eighties but remained there only two or three daks . . I saw Cass Hite and five or six other men . . They had a raft 20 or 25 feet long by 16 or 18 feet wide , loaded with a boiler , engine , supplies , tools , etc . . The boiler was about 12 or 15 feet long . I ( don't dont ) know the weight of the load on the raft . . I saw them start out on their river journey . . ( R . . 5132-5 , Vol . . 29 . ) Seven or eight years later I again went to Dandy Crossing and ( did- did ) some construction work for the Cass Hite Placer Mining Company at Good Hope Bar . . At ( Tickaboo TickabOD ) Bar I then saw the boiler and engine that I had seen leave on the raft on my first visit . While I was at Good Hope Bar equipment , hay , grain , scrapers , plows , etc . . , were brought down the river in boats and rafts from Dandy Crossing ( R . 5135-9 , Vol . 29 . ) In 1899 I freighted a drill , , lumber and supplies to Dandy Crossing for Mr . Stanton . They ( made nade ) a big barge on which to carry their drilling outfit and put at least a ( 10-ton 10ton ) load on it . Later I saw the drill at different points on the river , the lowest point at which I saw it being 5 or 6 miles below Dandy Crossing . I ( didn't didnt ) ( handle ha'-ndle handle ) any boats during the period of which I am speaking . In 1900 ( I 1 ) hauled a dredge and some other ( equip- equip ) ment and supplies for Mr . Stanton to a point just below ( Hanson Ilanson ) Creek . ( The Thle ) estimated weight of the dredge was 180 tons and it was all hauled on barges and boats up the river a half or three quarters of a mile to the point where it was set up . ( R . 5140-3 , Vol . 29 . ) On my visits to the river I saw boats going up and ( downstrea-m downstream ) . In going upstream they rowed their boats a good deal of the way ; over the heavy water they had to tow for a distance where they ( couldn't couldnt ) tke advantage of the big current in the riffles . . In 1916 1 took a boat trip from Red Canyon to Hite and ( re- re ) turn vith Mr . Turner ( who Nvho ) brought back 300 or 400 pounds of supplies for my cattle outfit in his boat . . I paid him for this service . On the upstream trip we sailed most of the way and I ( don't dont ) recall running into any sand bars . . We towed up one or two riffles , , including Trachyte Rapid . ( R . . 5143-5 , Vol . 29 . ) When I was down to the Colorado River in 1916 there were prospectors working in a good many different places up and down the river . ( ( R . 5150-1 , , Vol . 29 . ) ) Hemi , y Grimm , testified : : I have lived in Moab for about 36 years . . In August , 1898 , 1 went upstream from Moab about 22 miles in a ( 24-foot 24foot ) boat , , having a beam of about 5 5 feet , |