Heber J. Sessions, Golden Spike Oral History Project, August 7, 1974, GS-1, American West Center, University of Utah

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-15- SESSIONS T: _Your evaluations helped? S: It helped to determine how much the trucks should return to the state. T: Can you recall a year ~n which you really noticed that the trucks were really present in your area of Farmington and that region? S: It would be in the early thirties. T: That's when they started. S: I'd imagine, I'd imagine it would be in the early thirties. T: Just steadily grew along. . What about the war years, were they, I imagine the railroad was pretty busy during the war years, weren't they? Busier than they'd been during the thirties? Was it a busier time for you? S: Yes, yes they were. War time developed an additional 8ervice that normal times don't have. N: So you had a pretty high freighting load on the railroad at that time. S: Oh yes, heavy~ We look at the railroads today on what they are hauling. When you stop to think on those earlier days when they had the smaller steam engines they would haul about anywhere from twenty to thirty~five cars, very seldom up to forty, once in a while they'd drag that many, if they had anymore than thirty cars they would have a helper engine take them over to Clearfield Hill. Coming out of Ogden to Clearfield then they'd turn around and that helper would go back, and sometimes going from Salt Lake to Clearfield they'd take a helper engine on that going up Clearfield Hill from there from Layton to Clearfield, there's quite a rise in there for the railroads, both railroads, that's quite a rise and ooming from Ogden it's quite a rise. At that time the power was not sufficient to carry an extra big train. Now, with that in mind, the trains today, instead of having thirty to forty ~ars as a maximum, 200, 150-200 cars on the same train is what it is now. So that would be how many?