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Show Chairman: The white man follows pretty fast. A. Farther west there is not so much water, and the Indians don't think the white men would trouble them so much. They want to get grazing land and go into the sheep business. The Chairman: In case the Senators present would like to give the Indians the land west, they then desire to say they want a man to go out there and show them just what land is theirs, so there will be no mistake about it. Then they want it understood that no cattlemen should come on it. 14 The second to testify was Ignacio. His comments were: Q. What do you come here for? A. We came here to see the Senators and see what they can do for us. Wc have stated what we want, and expect the Senators will do something for us. Q. Do you agree with Chief Charley in what he has said? A. Yes, that is all right. Whatever Charley has said is straight. Q. Have you got any stock? A. I have got some sheep. Q. How many sheep? A. Very few. Q. How many? A. About a hundred. Q. What do you do with the wool? A. I sell it. Q. What do you do with the money when you get it? A. I have got a mouth. I buy things to eat. Q. What do you do in the summer? A. I worked all summer in a ditch, but the water did not run through it. Q. Have you got any children? A. No, they died last summer. Q. Do all the Indians of your tribe want to move west? A. Yes. 15 Tapoche, the third of the leaders to testify, agreed with Buckskin Charley and Ignacio that the Utes wanted to move west. In his communique to the Senate Committee, the Commissioner, J. D. C. Atkins, wrote that it was: . . . the decided opinion of this office that these Indians should be removed from Colorado. With some amendments, I think the bill introduced by Senator Bowen, ( S. 1916) is altogether preferable to S. 769. The latter does not provide for obtaining the consent of the Indians, which we would be bound to do under an existing agreement with them [ he is probably referring to the 1868 and 1880 agreements], nor for compensating the Indians for improvements owned by them on their present reservation, nor for the erecting of necessary agency buildings on the new reservation. All these things are provided for in the other bill - S. 1916. ifi Senate Bill Number 1916 stated that the Utes were to be moved to southeast Utah since the Indians were against moving to the Uintah Basin. It defined the proposed boundary of the reservation as: Beginning at the southeast corner of the Territory of LItah; running thence north along the eastern boundary line of said Terri- 14. Ibid., pp. 1- 2. 15. Ibid. 16. Ibid., pp. 3- 4. - 34- |