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Show T H E PA I U T E S 7 9 W E S H A L L R E M A I N : U TA H I N D I A N C U R R I C U L U M G U I D E CARL JAKE AND ROY TOM DISCUSS THE RESERVATION AND TERMINATION PERIODS KF: So you say the reservation has been sold, then? CJ: Yes, it's been sold. KF: And it's no longer . . . was everyone paid for that land? CJ: Yes. KF: Who owns it now, then? CJ: Fish and Game. KF: Fish and Game. How long ago was it sold? CJ: I don't know how long ago. . . RT: It was in '57. . . . KF: In those days before 1956, how was the medi-cal or doctor situation handled? Did you pay your own? . . . RT: The government paid while we was under government all the time. They paid for like, we went in hospital or something like that. They paid until we were terminated. . . . CJ: I went over there [the former Indian Peaks Reservation] about two years ago. It was all knocked down, those pinenut trees. Those trees . . .they shouldn't knock down like that. . . . George Morris, I think he's the one that sold it. . . . KF: George Morris? He's the one who sold it or handled the selling? CJ: Sold it for us, yes. KF: Do you know whether that was the same time they tried to sell the Shivwits Reservation? The government suggested that they sell that one, too. CJ: Yes, that about the same time. KF: . . . I gather that they didn't succeed, though. Those Paiutes still have that one. CJ: Well, the reason we sold that [Indian Peaks] . . . they terminate that, see, but we didn't have no money to pay for tax on it. Terminated, well, we decided "Well, go ahead, sell it." The government partner tried to sell it. He said, "Go ahead, sell it if you want to." That's when we get out of there, see? KF: Well, how did people feel about that? Did they really want to sell it or would they rather have kept it if they could? CJ: Rather have kept it but we couldn't afford to pay for tax, that's one thing. KF: I guess the one at Shivwits . . .their lease just pays for the tax. CJ: That's all, the lease. KF: Yes, but I guess if the taxes go up in another few years, they'll have to pay extra on it. CJ: That Indian Peaks wasn't a reservation a long time ago. KF: It wasn't? CJ: No, just was them old people that claim that |