Nick Lopez, Salt Lake City, Utah: an interview by John C. Worsencroft, October 6, November 23, December 17, and December 29, 2009: Saving the Legacy tape nos. IA-10, IA-25, , IA-27, and IA-28

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Nick Lopez 17 c mb r 2009 up here and he said, "First Sergeant, you need to go over and talk to him. He i o haken up h can't even frickin talk." I remember laying down next to him. I said, "It's all right. It' all right." He said, "We killed people. We killed the people." He kept going on. I said, "Just take a deep breath, set your weapon down, lay it down right there, just relax. We're safe." He just, "We killed those people, we killed those people." Just wouldn't shut up. He's in tears. He's down there crying, just real shaken up about it. I remember Duffy, he was doing his mortar stuff and staying real level-headed. He had his back against the Humvee and they were calling fire and they dropped every round they had in support of the attack of Five Points that night. So we ended up expending, I think what had happened is we piggybacked off when they were calling for fire up there. They called 81 'sin and we supported with the 60's too. During our attack, he took the number one guy out of the division mortar school, kind of a bigger guy, he was a corporal. He hand held and dropped a tube, so he was using the mortar tube as a, he hand fired that damn mortar tube at a car down the street (laughs). I was like, you've got to be kidding me. JCW: I can't remember his name. I know who you're talking about. NL: I'm trying to think of his name. Kind of a quiet kid, but really kind of a big husky kid. But I remember him grabbing that mortar tube and in the middle of the street, boom! He hand held, hand fired it. I was like holy shit. So all that was going on while you guys were up there with your hands full. Then the first vehicle came back, the first Cat vehicles came back and about eight of them were wounded. We had helicopters inbound. They got there and finally the senior chief and his guys started showing up and they're working on the civilians we had shot and all that stuff, trying to stabilize them. So the first helicopters land and actually a Humvee stopped and they 45