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Show 106 PROPOSED PARK IN UTAH CANYONLANDS NATIONAL of the Oneis us: creation Therefore we have two things before within which we permit these nonconformmg uses,. a national and I call that dilution for the sake of abetter. term.. criteria involved, The other is that we limit the area to the, unique Those are the two uses. these nonconforming allow and we do not things we are dealing with. conform completely Senator DWORSHAK. How would you make It Governor CLYDE. I beg your pardon? of a Senator DWORS\HAK. You say you want, to ?ave a CO'ncapt. WIth which th general I,:nage conf?rms Canyonlands National Park In or pattern which has been established t opertwn. oJ nlOnal .' parks in the past. How would you make this pr.oposal conform to your original con cept or the original concept of national parks? Governor CLYDE. Mr. Senator, may I develop that as I go along as part of the answer here tat I want to bring out? Senator DWORSHAK. Certamly. "'. Senator BIBLE. Certainly, we will let Y0U 'proceed with your case in chief and we will not interrupt. you, Governor, until you have presented your views and then we willquestion you. Governor CLYDE. I would like to speak 'just briefly on the scenery and I don't think there is any doubt, these beautiful pictures that were here yesterday, no one questions the unique superb portions of that area which is under considerafien, so as far a&-sp.ery; there is no question about it. Senator BIBLE. I was going to say it is clear to the Chair this is one So we area in which everybody seems to be in, complete agreement. park . . . . -s, • • t . . . . ,. . are .' . . , starting-. - Governor CLYDE. Now grazing, it has been pointed out to you and I don't need to develop it, grazing is limited. It is not extremely im portant to this issue because of the magnitude of it, it is very small. But when we come into this question of hunting, we get into another area, which I think we should develop, and there was. some informa tion delivered yesterday which. I took the liberty to check last night with my fish and game department and they tell me that the deer herds for this area come from the south, the Ahajo Mountains are down here, and they come m from the east, and the La Sal Mountains on here, they are a long way, it. is true; but the migration from the winter to summer range is extreme, and they told .me the kin in 1960 was around 7,000 head and that the kill in. 196L was around, 10,000 head. Senator BIBLE. Governor, might I interrupt just there so we mizht clarify this and I am going t<?· depart from my earlier statement be cause, as y<;m move razmg.to huntmg, questiorrr'suggest them selves and If you don't mind, I'WIll ask you at that pomt-you say ill 1960 they took 7,000 deer and 10,00 in 1961, but from what area Governor CLYDE .. That IS two: points I wanted to .develop. The Blue Mountams are down here, the Abajos, and the La Sals are up here, and then ar some mountains out west here, and the deer migrate from the winter _range to the ummer range. When the snows come m the mountams they come into this winter range and that is Nature, Nature forces them. down there. The kill is usually outside the boundaries of the park because during the hunting season, " fom |