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Show land where. 1 livo W not my reservnlion. but I think it no harm to live Ihero so leng as I' am at pence. CoinuiisM'nor MCDONALD. Do you, ( hen, intend to let our people alone wlmpn up'- n 3- 0,0 resc.. i. limi t IMA- MII'.. 1 am a man who lives over ( hero lo fight n, v enemies. I do not i. ttei. d I" put jny house in a per. nuue. it place and hurl liny body, as tho whiles me doing in le- re. I ntn talking according .0 . he treaty, which says that 110 one can build a permanent house on our laud, but lh. it. wc can go where we please so long as wtt barm nobody. Commissioner M< COOK. YOU 1110 mistaken about tho contract. Its provision* n: e the same 01. bulb sidea. U- KAY. I can tell yon in regard to Ihe treat3'; nnd here are Major llend nnd Mr. C'unis, ' who know how it is. I fit b- not as I say, I must he a lubifier. Commissioner McCooK. No person S. lspc. it. yi'M of falsifying. "\ Ye nre .. liking about the Uower Ules, who liavn never been uu tho 1 escrow ion. They agreed with the rest to do so. and have never 3 el complied. U HAY. I know that they aro in Iho treaty and are all tho lbr. 0 on Ihe Rio Navajo. Commissioner Mt'CoOK Ynu know it is not on the re. scrvatioii. U- ltAY.. According to ihe manner in which the treaty was it- presented tops, wle- n ini'K it included a portion of New Mexico. Commissioner McCooK. Wc did not iniiko tho licuty. Il is imt our fault. We believe Hint, us il is impossible lo Como to uny conclusion, it i » best for the Utes lo tend a deb gallon lo Washington. U- KAY. We cannot do Ibis. No ono will go. " . '• . Commissioner McCooK. Inteiprel it to the chiefs, Ihnt ihey may understand our proper-linn. Yon can talk iheie will, the. I'lcndon! ami will, ll... Commissioner Of Indian Allans, and be ni., o lo arrive at some explicit undciiWHiiding, and como back and explain il to. he U. e, Nation. t U- HAY. What issaidhcreis wiillen down, and they will all know it nt Washington. I hat is just, as well as ( o send a delegation. Wh. it aro yon going to do with these pi, p e c ? ' Commissioner McDoNAI. IJ. They ,„ c for lire Department and for the newspapo*. M. that everybody may BCO what wc have done, and that the Indians have been fahlv nnd lioimiattly dealt wi. h. .' . Commissioner MCCOOK. The President nnd Iho Commissioner or Indian AITairsnuiy sny things thai we cannot tell you, ami may bo ablo lo explain this matter to your sati- luiion. Thev bavo more, authority I hill, wc havo. • ' GlJi no, Jicnrilla Apache. You havo V e i l sent hero for Ibis . business. Wind we h ivr fitid can be read, and nil opinion can be lormc. l just as well us . though we went tin re. Commissioner McCooK. Bill . he Mnm. ehc. s and . he Capotes luiyc given 1,0 IIU » M « T n « te whither Ihey aro willing lo come upon Urn . estivation >< T not. 1 give them I In*. ..' Ivire or Iho commission, .0 send a delegation .0 Washington. Il is a long lime since limy h i t c .•.••• il Ihc. e, and it would bo far 11.010 satisfactory lo the President und to ihe people il th- 3 """'" I U- HAY. Knn- c- a- cho says Ihatlm has not two intentions. lie hassnid his mind, nnd lie does not intend to go to Wnshington. Commissioner Mt'CooK. They have not y c f a n s w e i c d my question with regno) t > coming upon ( he icservntion. .... KAN r.- A- » : in:. These houses of ( ho ngency Ihnt I see hero arc a pail of ( he t. enty. I •.•*..• is no need or on, going to Washington, There are two men pulling down what my mouth tpcaks, and il is of no use for inc to go to Washington. CUr. uo That is all. Wo havo no nmrc lb say. Commissioner Ml Pos. vl. D. The. olhcr two bauds bavo not nnswe. red the rpirslion . vlrlh. T they intend going ou tbo rescrvaliou or not. Wo wuut to report thai answer will. I. if rest of the proceedings. .'••.. , " wi U- ltAY. K a n c a c h o says he is too old lo Inlk, nnd hns spoken Ins word onco. " ..' in > « ' tho line of the Capoten' land 7 Commissioner McDuNALD. The bouth line of Colorado and the north lute or New . Mexico, accoiding tn thu Irealy. . .. U- IIAY. The way the trenty' is understood by us is, that it lakes a portion or New AH xirn, nnd comes up along those mountains horo. Commissioner MCCOOK. It does not lako any portion of New Mexico. U- ltAY. The Mamicl. es, Capotes, We. minuches, mid Uiicuu. p. igies aro in Ihero Boulh nl us he,.., and ihcv thought it ilu- ir reservation. Cuu. missh. ncr M.-' CooK. Ilia not their reservation. None of it is below Iho south HOP 01 C. doia. lo, aecoidii. g lo the l. caly. ,.,#.. U- KAY. There, art, only three bands of Ihe Utes- 1' i- ahs, Iho Mnna'h. s. nnd Iho Gnp.- lc". will, a portion td mine, the Ta'. aipiache. s - who havo been nil" ibo resetvulion. Commission, r Mt; Co„ K. The council is over. Wo part Irmi. d., a id wn wpirl ><*' ymi rnii. ml sen ( his mailer „ s wo do. All that hns been done will bo reputed In W .. slmpim.. 1 hop.- . born will be no trouble on ( he l .. nerval h., 1, ami trust you will havo pnlieme .... HIvm. can hear lion. Washington . hioi. gh ymir agents, ll Is n very impo. ln., 1 matter, ami • ! . • >•- |