Dick Crookston, Salt Lake City, Utah: an interview by Tim Larson

Transcript (35 pages) of interview by Tim Larson with Dick Crookston of KUTV in Salt Lake City on June 29, 1988. This interview is no. 189 in the Everett L. Cooley Oral History Project, and tape no. 791

Crookston discusses his career at KUTV doing propwork and eventually as creative director, his presidency of the Salt Lake Advertising Club, and various people he worked with, including George Hatch. Interviewer: Tim Larson

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Williams. talked to go to, but not since he got back. award. so open He's And off I I and the have fact where Al saw fact I'm going you for a interview, Thomas, him Benny need the interview. to I've candid--[laugh]. to to talked Yeah, that broadcasting. June nice, kind to of get And out 1988 to OF INTERVIEW] 35 two Mr. you'd Starliey talked visit with KUTV. [END I he's so 1like Starley. ishwith wonderful 29, Kknow, person with Thomas him. you him hours. Dick to in This now, Frank Oregon ends Crookston