John P. Brophy, La Jolla, California: an interview by Tim Larson

Transcript (41 pages) of interview by Tim Larson with John P. Brophy, , on February 4, 1990. This interview is no. 276 in the Everett L. Cooley Oral History Project, and tape no. 1203

Brophy (b. 1929) recalls his Kearns family background, the family interest in broadcasting and newspaper publishing, as well as personal insight into his personal background. Interviewer: Tim Larson

Acc 814 Interview No. 276 JOHN P. BROPHY JOHN La P. Jolla, An L. California Interview Tim Everett BROPHY Cooley Tape By Larson Oral No. History 1203 February 4, Marriott Library University Salt Lake 1990 of City, Utah Utah Project UNVERSITY OF LIBRARIES MARRIOTT LIBRARY SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH UTAH EVERETT L. COOLEY ORAL HISTORY COLLECTION Date I 19 willingly to scholarly contribute the my Library testimony of the recorded University on of 1O/)H 9‘Z4[ Utah to 70 (/0 be wused purposes. |74 Open Usable and usable with the after my following review. restrictions: /wafi;%/q “Interviewee Interviewer for 84112 THE FOLLOWING IS AN INTERVIEW WITH JOHN P. BROPHY. THE DATE IS FEBRUARY 4, 1990. HIS ADDRESS IS 1268 VIA BARRANCA, LA JOLLA, CALIFORNIA 92037. HIS TELEPHONE NUMBER IS 459-9774. THAT IS HIS HOME PHONE AREA CODE 619. TIM LARSON IS THE INTERVIEWER. [THIS IS PART: OF THE EVERETT COOLEY ORAL HISTORY PROJECT.] TL: To start JiBsSSMay TL: JB: 7, out, I your family would Well, I like hope Senator You do was the F. was Kearns II, born kind run really had three children: in Kearns. 1918 or She built California. oldest of name 1919 a She which My was the things. Nobody worked in those days. was Helen Helen, Helen just King newspaper in Thomas he beautiful and in the My Kearns. married after J. that. ran leader. businesses J. of the Her service. the she 1899. 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BROPHY class You #1 Romans. can it. was 1926" handsome, spoke man. gigolo very fancy of He her '28. with was off this was three lived in turned womanizer came be and out of link the chain in Harold I and in old, New is he they York the they was the one that went to Paris and City. dime-a- in Paris, person where very at he American May 7, 1929 when States like in August of my husband, mother. him. met my it was from Brophy was was a We Mario he was a She finally only missing adopted father, The out He '29. 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So they were That really New every in and it York the So have those World Brophy War Avenue Then II for we we were so school New in the New interesting did get "resting" raised by or York York a lived all East City. My first available. who 4 I called adopt you stay At six work that even up lived until on Beekman year and Place. two at then out to to of high my Park or went year a 1like on I had lived and problem. was we might course, I I I a in McCarthey Academy. of hotel that to we Coast. York. that York, Military the doesn't on for New Brophy. a Manhattan, New that either a it Off drinking cousin be somewhere. to me wants think we told time be "No, because, the not I old to can the the Anyway You can't and was years over it. I back it like Connecticut then Westport, fist can in handle in in the you me. lived in up "Harold said, adopted awhile, Greenwich, was She She moving woke was or "Why papers 1935. I to circus changed." want, three?" way." me. said, be said, used and didn't she you I other I in house that will if old the and and name Gabellini years married snow, he Brothers' devastated with your got selling seen New practice, Ringling. they York good grammar school Those were mother never She was always really off and my aunt. She on was JOHN A. BROPHY around a house lot she were was 7, joined type the a mother had I Army guy, who in my mother's grandmother's and Pearl Harbor was twelve little bit of a everybody was a very drinker but a great to live in a home there to escape the summer of bought with got immediately He Reno her remembered Brophy Advocate. was a companion. I when and like Driscoll Connecticut. Judge went my Clare death, Westport, 1941 excited. My after primarily living December all helping keeper/mother/confidant. name, We #1 my loyal guy. grandmother Utah State taxes. Jennie J. Kearns? Jennie J. Kearns. just come from Military my Reno? In Reno, Did diBis Well they Who there. she in go no, out. were the My was year at the house myself, and I died July and the in mother house back to because Switzerland get freshman '43 New had York then? think 4, I My that 1943 at my the " Eorty—four. In STl was grandmother, was agesoft my Academy. mother, sister It and They on try to kick Brophy Italy. got fine. Greenridge So along Of is in she drinking the Army is waiting good, problem? overseas for him in to they were okay, course Clare Driscoll was there 5 pretty the Drive. JOHN A. BROPHY taking the I #1 care anchor believe TRifye She JBe Yes, of went was care did the that she to was in my of Where me. JB: She is is So in Plot with Reno, or at is Bellarmine, the My is nickname at there. is my Gabby, talk both started with I please," it true. '43 problem. also Lake took City. I the to that She could So ENkept just then Marina was a we got I in her 6 Maquie mid go to Gabby in and two Eand flat the fact a half then of San that died of early at I I never "I Ysatidy; am that 2149 was some told isn't Beach Francisco it flat Clara. and legend a to to Santa something. think grandmother a sentences. family District Bellarmine. my about or be for whole get put Gabellini was the to We complete sugar of she wants prep for until the going around. Lake, Sheila Schobl "Pass was always decided sister. s s in family. Salt Salt was because daftiss Street the but in in It DaPi quite was Calvary Sdaldil but Westport, companion, Boarding didn't then that, of you? funeral Mt. up that and one always paid. Reno Francisco I is was buried? Marymount, that was She she that. she San grandmother; mother. the buried Rearns my grandmother's attend iB and and back she She me and I October internal eighties. She JOHN A. BROPHY #1 some kind had MS So JB: Not she year, buried in it I killed Tom, a family dates let me go to at night. I a died on been That a was there too. working there. So there brother, my SESN ignatiustHight right She sister, in there. married cathedral and He I Sheila meets O'Day. party SLIES In San Francisco? JB: In San Francisco, my sbrother;"€illare, so It a was at the St. now she is and"L. 7 Clare flat. thilstwash Then I these there. So finally come home for two Kearns there and Driscoll, my was going to V45, 8and and gets married. big wedding Francis gone. I the Y44 guy a of I So in Thomas 1living think year. schools was the year. and fun, was in Schooly, John a and of that they Ignatius was I all and the Then all are boarding lot to deaths verify also Phil that as Street St. in was far they Beach school, have now. husband files, flat day died can was going that. as year? She me brother, You a brother of '43 Tribune the McCarthey in concerned. have my months year we spared Then big by months. they mother's the Helen, six enough. daughter's now years but his were in about three my that had was had problem. daughter, Lake, within Uncle digestive her Salt funeral, we a outlived a know of So 46, at the is now Hotel. there graduate from St. JOHN A. BROPHY #1 Ignatius and because that returning high I on the and U.S.F., I In A, asked going they get said Thomas well he Kearns. So the back Salt to called I had house for right above Lake. some us or be had Clare. was called T.K After 1321 Yale 11th East there. of Utah and transcript and they said, e amisnetl that v bad, of of girl and that he was year. So Kearns? Kearns, but mostly that is my family they "No, '48, (laughter) time I the upholding is Clare Avenue diloek s ats three middle not at race got it So on I maybe all there. or so the the agreed. later me take to was a just that 8 I to Spring I very student go the take scored could the met probably University and I In and either family to whatever. school decided had and back. is they terrible meet come Kearns that we a would McCarthey was was incompletes. married Kearns Yeah, and of rejected disappointment party, to was because to not I grades big use that meantime, to a I two me good home. pool, standards the had that U.S.F. we and Stanford. year was at semester, U.S.F. the to shoot one second go mean or I It be for the SAT. to Trolley F's, was veterans. decided track applied Driscoll in tried Salt to 1looked way." my - high' to at I home kept Lake get my a City into said, go the U.S.F. "Listen scheel." They JOHN A. BROPHY said, if "Yeah, that take four you well, In #1 we will terms This of is age, the summer JBR B ss asasilsile JB: Ty Oh Driscoll yes, she anchor. She She more was How old solids you Driscoll? Clare pretty enroll TL: S is is was are what? '48 the and one like my she in said, "Well school, and do fall." I am nineteen. you? mother the They summer in with the is in you of came good." of that house, keeps mother '48 the by or the she glue is the together. far. how old was she during this?’ JB: Oh Clare really TL: JB: was that probably serious encyclopedia You call I will be call her. Yeah, I is going will Clare on out give No wait, mentally he went to he stayed work with of her and blocked. all of dates by in paper 9 in in 1life you are sister is born where. was and Okay, the still Kearns his way number. was who my If a Hillsborough. the myself Kearns the the phone there at fifties. dates‘and the you Driscoll Avenue. little her her about walking can in was the maybe so now house I Yale am there classified incidentally will there on there, still I a and which in one JOHN A. BROPHY form #1 or another. department owned 4 1B JB: You a lot all Yeah, at in came well my So four when I of al seniilor. get now to she nice a as of schemer residency the guy of the was Law fall surviving dnk My the a falil in and '43 world. 10 at the a will little I get was great plotter of entire has a not wasn't attorney, last 'a don't the His of ami I probably Connecticut the the right. and left it fall exactly that got do "5088T mother's regardless gets can the o is Brophy was I classes, grandchildren. My says In newspaper month. was, '48. it Jane. sophomore That nine Connecticut. spouse a I grandmother because he tough in and house. because the the back the real of U510 western that he stayed intended, in now, owns died 1950 I and come his in am Hm of until though classified. I met and the all. settled English I in dollars when he whatever So each in and school and at classified even married Clare, Clare family money hundred gotten s uniifeoEsandl the much settled just Utah the Tribune worked that Migraduated something few had '48 to. for 1948? summer have LAORNTEam still in physics, University Okay is in history, he of there A's it, Iake Kearns, the summer now Salt sister So worked the back California. was He as and established an archaic existing estate. wills So Jack JOHN A. BROPHY #1 Gallivan and excited when now." Of I I am can you the sell in it, revert it lot of hundred could said is could but it. When So family® rich, I always a month more than the weren't No, I didn't --associated car bringing in or you didn't I better was So rather that he could it was about a life died He it would in even had all four guy or though of t&he have of so die '67 personally next it, didn't know had time encumber obituary, and money. a he the there. this legal not there is and a have could said, lawyer that Brophy own have a through intent. wealthy the go mother's right am four He planned. my You o= of know, of He and he income my ‘Eromita, I go mine the that." considerable, paper, all to law. with was dispose don't upbringing deal the to something, a gang it's do exactly court which all or until--I in the back Iiwas it of the was the everything can't check that stock, interest left all boys, incompetent." made percent and "Well "You can exactly they have T she challenge thing, says, said, something than 60 Brophy They not not Fitzpatrick course children. "Yes, John a five that whatever. money that was-- have-- with the wealth? SN E lleRibiiE], s A5 tbuth Ehell fKearnsir&Tribune I JOHN A. BROPHY #1 Corporation--then an account for recovered settled. lacked I a TLs Before guess that is now in a to down sophomore the to in John on a this am not at the did that was it. the I that University and to mines station. be finally So saying radio main and it they newspaper your launch 1948, I Corporation--kept when how and interest we and estate half getting education anything am Kearns the addition has my the from for 1948: In I just never I of did. Utah. the family Now we are interest. that, at Fitzpatrick that was time the when you publisher came of the Tribune? You He bet was He and he the was president the all the or is the U.S. was his was when he was said, do and was Pulitzer protege. as he was the it one chairman was hired by my you nobody great winner is related in over." course' the the of He the called grandmother take Of of it. grandfather's John deal. publisher, he Prize 152 the my whole the-- and "Well, Gallivan the well happened. he ran as anything, what A name He to he corporation, you She basicalily mind shots. '18 able potential the CEO, secretary. power, everything, of board, 1917 the financial the of was and ‘he personal the family That had is the publishers all. in of Gallivan somewhere, he is JOHN A. BROPHY #1 a distant cousin' graduated under from or Notre Fitzpatrick. passed away publisher Even and publisher, caillgs a very he is in was what 631, fine you " i shetsy and '62, no and that went to When John question Mr. became about O'Brien 'hims it. is Gallivan tell he work Gallivan Jerry that WYoultcan think assistant. one, think I '37, his retired, don't the Dame He in though semething. the doesn't Tsssaid so. (laughter) Your grandmother's that of Judge name was Memorial High Jennie Judge School, is Kearns. that the Is same Judge? JB: I think so, before, Now that Sheila didn't of the talking to TL: Oh, I JB: They a that. Corp. George owns which copy is is of She she my met was sister. I in the Kings the book said, "God, and up is better than I much am. You I Queens library Sheila records married grandfather. my in it. family. there. I about will enjoy her. Then the So before It keeping will. had same this, that." have and the rascal, Range history is knows know don't of it she three I am half Hatch, children. now the and married a Thomas We have sophomore radio the Kearns. station at the which Intermountain 13 gone through U. and is Network all Kearns KALL and with Abe JOHN A. BROPHY #1 Glasmman. school I I had was messenger, Federal was said, me at the JB: You next step at up can I exciting and glamorous did you Yes, because older--I was am to going Paris So on when I ask popular music Chick swing in and a over. There a bank a clerk did in a Harry All would that was the Benny you the music years "Next I was May time born 7, to in ten in '36 what is the know, Duke in I 1924. Tommy all singers, phonograph something more Goodman, great listen radio five and teenager, James, what then? was nine, me school. exactly birthday day? 14 after the much became (laughter) Her tried the was birthday--said, is of showed Jazz 1is They So answering That I person. about I at something, job?" stuff eight, We front was "How So and dog." things. I over her the Webb, etc... sat me. who she of ‘I was a there?" to seven, and high Gallivan interest on for Fitzgerald just an of said, job birthday. am In newspaper I sister born '41 great the records my through Dorsey, a have her kind be. station, Okay, I always things. would filing I some get and school. want-to-do-something about looking flowers, know 1library and after teller, driven, "What librarian, e a Reserve. the phone was a worked delivering I always I always and me the Ella Ellington. played that him said, JOHN A. BROPHY "Gosh, hang #1 this out in San in '45 and in the hip Sunday night also did records little "Jazzbo" eight solid studio. He to KALL and would keep radio T "You without Hatch am Oh, "Four Leaf commercial. there this 15 it for eight away there a is with a "Hey you He are had week. there why doing college says, a He filing don't we do off-the-wall you weren't Clover" for jammed the He pounding song it." played playing man, in time? 1like hadn't guy days Brophy always is "I jolly laughs. I a and "Yeah thing. the happily Jazzbo some Mooney's say, fat five the all start there on was playing he a know Blackhawk, with filing saia, was night Art am down had cards experimental Collins. remember hours am We He played board I I draft Brubeck didn't to clubs I, clubs used little fake Hungry there, and said, you take some We great little So kid.¥ Sunday he Do switch hip" it. Guaraldi. Lake: So loved When, had Al thing." he going He yourself." and there, On '49. show the Brubeck jockey the things. RS yet. are''pretty all all Vince disk named I to Say library. wonderful Oh, great 1like music pretty had those until at The 1948--Salt beard a of started groups. We at players yoeu school '46 all actively a high and quite in fantastic." Francisco. just Jazz is hours? on and the I am JOHN A. BROPHY #1 JB: For eight him was do that. solid to go hours. off He The the did only air and nutty way they they could weren't things. He stop going was a to real character. Now in terms Well, had of let's to be age, see, what I am were your nineteen probably--I am relative or twenty ages? and guessing--thirty Jazzbo or thirty- one. He would be about ten years Yeah, I am guessing. I years older. Well, maybe because he was said, "Let's going to say, man, and he what he is all. He said, think as this thing on is there filing to.'" "Hey Jjob." He said, "I None said, "Yeah, it lot. a Elman, do I and like I love T am you know. my the 'Jazz 16 over I thing said, at the I am library, see rehearsed Sing, at what are That is there." I Sing.'" "Yeah, solo, I a lot." ""Weill, he Let's have said, Krupa the records. you older show. here, £iling ten Anyway, mad. was to looked in 'Sing, whole SEe cat this do seven Sunday like that?" Gene UNhatiotherMmusiic?d Ellington, he get what like the seven, of Goodman's you love I "So Benny was this Brophy, said, have ié you? he records yousdoeingRieTissaid » YWhy my only heavy 'Hey, than that very do up older «IT I He like love Ziggy He said, dig: 'Duke Philharmonic,' and I JOHN A. BROPHY really #1 like Canada named away." He Then come he said, we'll I in Ml the got chatting "Yeah, said, Brophy "John, is you a pretty hip are pretty good, night 10:00 will him speak try the on have you '48. and to my to led my radio of why don't want midnight." Hatch thing Swing exactly, said, to So "well, another and career. Session it was the do you want what working spots. whom school record One I guy." from John 10:00 to been in? Now own did Hatch." man, from radio. and store, it." Night KALL my to beginning Sunday of Going we Sunday college time and here tell Hi-Fi Peterson, down "I selling cat Shit would winter this show? was can is Sunday midnight JB: There this Brophy's This players. do let that Oscar he you to piano said, after don't Rl the at I had I forget own thing. during the of to know? radio Florsheim the the fall name week or the I am now station Shoes of. and '48 I and the my own sold still and working in library? Nes. Where was Just and south Main Kearns KALL of located the at Kearns just before Building on the the 17 that point? Building, Utah west 142 Theater side of or and the 146 South after the street. The JOHN A. BROPHY Kearns #1 Building about 142 doing that. a South in got graduating a little into little the club 4th owner and decided Casbah. He stuff John, great mentor, Hal nostalgic. started blues I just was girl I am and got thinking going to that the be television a until in and there and in family and and 18 we I get a get helped a radio Hatch that had was there the we 1little that. lovely young just I fine. I also applied in a 1little college station. in with is of and Anyway bringing out the mine, wasn't '50s. met the jazz of everything I the and so along. when working 1licence late corner called friend a the street some Wes the of musicians get I--no and was the the guy--I stuff, right at these great Utah cat bottom club me and the there the of 1loved married that a Bowman, who with down help was stuff grooving we who come groups all you Hawthorne studious 1little know and getting then happy was Then in is There Manhattan a don't didn't the and "You very Casbah open Wes played it very school. and a Yeah, am Harry scene. was I named was jazz Zogg, He, known at the to why So Wes musicians Main said, here." yet, So He there Main. upstairs. bit. called South South class 1local Manhattan--no, of some 136 percussionist my Symphony what Main I met wonderful was is five for am knew a vyear JOHN A. BROPHY #1 approval work to was RTe being very the of Absolutely, switched minor Bl I to in, just times I never isn't move further your experiences into into the good Howe, all thing about can him his name booking as an in radio thinking in was in always English I an major with radio. an That took and English is what biology I six it. I can't radio do that. career, the University Speech Department she was You the great over and she talking of pass your gal. friends, see you and because either, at I Before tell of me Utah. who we about When did you you come with? wonderful do me station, involved Were working did the Hill pronounce were communication barely into contact Louise a for off and graduated and management? jockeying speech education television interests started That the whole that. for started and with my television. I changed JB: in disk when geared about grooming avocation. I family beginning terms So involved excited Obviously and JB: process. her now yet, is a head know but the that classical over wonderful the bow when she 59 department she got composers. again. successor, with of We lady. Duane tie. got retired I haven't or to would be Remember Hill? I me We to and very I was think. I thought passed on he JOHN A. BROPHY #1 took her place. We will get out. So I my wife Carol January from met of 1950. signing Francisco 11:00 off Clear o'clock there named Jimmy Monterey years. I and Dave had a have model talked to records or with Oakland, has the but a recorded him, at bumps I had and He the and to now the been little .you the for bit I man and is Mizhaud to jazz group that was Let's Here' the everything. car The 20 a at Oakland. home Mills a local 1listen 'Well, "I because next and to San is in and has Francisco Dave had to Brubeck stop got morning a called Records to I bit here he be He little club I some College Fantasy a but passing pianist. at play Jimmy me studying concert of Everybody a driving that disk Jimmy had am a after getting night only seventeen truth. we San producer about So home was to phone time. stop listen has a the in sist is It on informal and to is in receive met likes Lounge could never young he driving had Darius playingi®iSprang car. a I am day eloped I one little Burma Company is I we think. composer studying he So and used something. "Here classical I to tell I Howe the beautifully. myself him acquaintance. said, and Festival Garroway before while Channel patterned that midnight Lyons. Jazz role night at KGO jockey the One to such I the goose couldn't JOHN A. BROPHY wait to Sabid call Whe Can you six "Does I this not only He is a he den¥t will give I three hear I Dave a hundred was fan it to something. schedule your or phoned if he out you which can't is or to drop or four didn't Dave know said, "Wow, and though." backbreaking. 2 up I eight And He said, or the really here is artist you for one whether this of I saying play or Well, One an I possibly maybe yourself don't it card. Brubeck I do me keep. come he to weeks. to two like like 'seme address about a "I "Oh, his for is said, “you said, me would he said, get He that I He I said, Berkeley." day." week?" show got consider something. I my I a VifT me man, at gives Lake three "No it?" He you Salt in and a gets on "If public back for sent he here teaches just is club little hours "“He and he letter mail, a He Jimmy Mills, cards, threw my called Bsaid,stWell ; in So said, said, of I got records cards that weekend or bunch I guy." said, records." address." Brubeck I He that his months. regret, owe you his things some see that time." up "BL is he?" nineteen come played got nine working you I at SehinkWse. would the sides. to student "Who i'snlt: travel? ever mail said, me trio time 1like "Would I send guy from and Sils@qocd® original book and Lyons StAhi great. the #1 me he is told "Dave wrote really me his please JOHN A. BROPHY come." the #1 Finally--I summer up of during '49 his saidd, s Wi or one widlle on bass, So introduced have '50 or the! Calt look it agreed two the on he to come break. original and either would summer vibes Brubeck up--in that week trioe, Jader Dave to he week bring Crotty you will He trio, Ron percussion. Salt Lake? Absolutely. A record Yes, I first and am that disk It jockey can't take Tlas They got JBs Uh-huh. TS The is there don't in in said, "My first was Salt Lake away road named from me, job John I am engagement. "Down a nice Brophy." So they print there. in for Beat" Trio. original a trioe. biography if the "Down on him? biography Beat." my I speech department, wrist injury and a bit. On Ferrari the the in side the BoamoMCoupe s thath I 22 mentions Pardon the registered 19578 show in know did tongue road autobiography Brubeck But a first him? his that sEhe from Dave's brought in in ‘Fhetrie, sharp you that? Dave Dave then was mentioned articles. I and not am drugs I name being just have thickened the of Utah. It 1961. so recovering had in but quite also state boeught my I my first was drove a it JOHN A. BROPHY back #1 from racing so Los and in automobiles the '50s rare books, We We is will get I was 1in was I page I I so think Saturday one tapes All we to the right. are like that is sports jazz, maybe 1lifelong out of I it. racers paintings, It a market and stuff sculpture, is a lot another You more other old know car my whatever. back wonderful about it. So story. continued through nights too go doing but the University but to just be a think for TV and home that was in 1950s and you of At the as person. know and from NBC maybe I one that graduated hour. at I work Sunday record files. I to another to in to Jjust or station, week, myself was misty after York prepare are a because used We these I New it night college--the a So I got that at bring the '60s. graduated from Utah? 195182 JB: L) 03 to could time go }60s that as money later.: five went well in show. to the known 1is it. that on am and or note, night have college '60s love to Sunday time I as making stamps, side would am and and a I I That investment the Tilise areas. Now from So almost avocation. that JB: circles some business T Angeles. By the way interviewed before Louise we Hill 23 1leave Howe. that, I must say I JOHN A. BROPHY JB Is she IS Yes. JB Gh, TL: Louise "I #1 still with us? didn't ‘knew that. Howe Maloneé. Hill years old. looks wonderful. Did she I think remember that me She 1looks is about she and probably sixty ninety-two. She everything? Yes. Oh, that is great. She did and there was a list of people that she had will greet her for taught. Well, I isn't that be talking will wonderful. to her again. I you. Hill, Duane There is Hill. Duane Hill. That¥ilssit? Is I that who will you are get this, HislsE Sl it talking will about? come to me. Never mind, go ahead. s Puanes University JB: Well, the I of there speech taught donE think® £hat « he'staught at the Utah. was and under one guy that radio and broadcasting him. I was 24 an taught adjunct who was in 1962 head of because professor, you JOHN A. BROPHY don't #1 have taught am the JB: I and sport Rex Campbell? No, SRl We am can make can Hal him and a I very it that. started, did that I the for two much. who would have Greaves now, in crew chipper. big going pick a it was see was I how for been the in department. cut, He there glasses, always wore very bow ties coats. Rex hair. anything whatever. of smiling, or history, think There can bright, degree enjoyed to 1960s. Well, and and trying a broadcast lengths semesters I have radio wave TL: to to it up. in guy say is it The transcription fill burly there. with All curly brown Duane. other of the thing this, you right, we is will are that get at I will it and you 1950 and you in the graduated. JB: I graduated Red Norvo have had that I I is Tal behind the except Besides In pictures and have '51. Trio. have Mingus, there in all of my my years picture desk. That is is recent brought jazz right? with That we in everybody, Farlow. some Brubeck Red in ones I The only Norvo, the the and should one Charlie upper left up only picture that with Hampton and then you others. SRS You had been bringing 25 in people and JOHN A. BROPHY #1 graduated JB: I go from to radio New or want a to be you competent also run a oriented. I Tls So a JB: Yeah, not hit a by I time. a I any 1951. can get in there I job no I somewhat I or not money am also salesperson, machine. in did was Remember, and a operations talent. was tape in I a can engineering mean that I am stretch. person? salesperson all station Let just fill mother fiad your if that writer run around me knew and good broadcasting, see Utah something big board, technical or I copy engineer of necessarily the can to as star. very an City television but not University York management, unless s the the or a attributes good to be promotion a good all person. in on the died, other but side. Harry Now obviously Brophy was still alive? JB: Harry Brophy remarried saw him and I So no Are a much again. really I you back kidding, I 1liked to New from younger mean never father-son buddies, went returned he saw the woman service named again 1946 Edith. corresponded. Harry in He after I and never passed the away war. relationship? absolutely Harry York in 26 a my lot. not. I junior We were always that when think year in college I to JOHN A. BROPHY go and him #1 see shows once. 1951. I I find us and got am jazz, now leave a and us in squared happened. York June and You were JB: Oh yeah, Salt she married I and she that out you married in like he was one boss, you it That is in New Jjunior in me. August. was Fitzpatrick, found arrived I John to I when of was When in was in job I with York my were I stayed New Jjoined think came I go to somewhere. I while that Lake away, what TS and apartment exactly in think married Carol little I college? a college. RES In terms still looking after—--number He was Judge also taking Kearns, bet. care which was of to his commitment make sure that to Jénnie the family was-JB: --the corporation powerful there but was stable. whether in conservative. To bad That eventually. He only 12 of their percent the most The corporation, always widely came secure is and make sure times or what paid profits would always good about in not it brought out stable, times, about eight pay this autonomous first. mythical "Well, 27 we 20 can't to do sale percent when 30 be super my dividends conservative all or even percent. corporation that Gabby, JOHN A. BROPHY Sheila, #1 because who is the So that is SRy How JB: I the corporation? basically did you feel loved him dearly his arms would always John, there in he the all reason John me. He a line is are ‘stock that John did in this..." thought, the we used some profound up I "well, holders?" sold. Fitzpatrick? because preface the Who toward around "Now corporation..." to great statement connection That come was a and put things, he by with great saying, the thing phrase that had. SNES Say that JB: "The again? line up in connection with the thing there QUSROS You I knew was you that going keep to you you worry day telling would how that are much going for stuff. I He can He was would ask list gum, to I that. figure. me when it. me the don't know about make to I You going to get something. nose And partying. station, were get your distracted. father you want to we get be a feel for 28 "Now and of and hear an that it and him some spent toothbrushes, meticulous, but your television don't to kind allowance I get about this part listen, don't hear definitely toothpaste, a said, grindstone everything was He something? and this of a he money on: and all wonderfully JOHN TL JB: A. BROPHY #1 man. I I just trying was daily basis? would check No, he had a I in mines, looking could how see to things I resume to every radio have seek my got a or had to he John. So fortune. television job with there cold? We I to he New making the always there. I graduated have network the but were always now After a he newspaper, the was back on school, anything activities. but track doing? me He keep going were visit gone and he of you run. to Did terms other talk and I to new always stuff, in various at (1951) mean, empire and think. personally didn't big to lot. a him loved caring York with my the rounds of and all that Broadcasting National Company. Did you go out Yes. You didn't Oh, have-- I might George Hatch that Iy It JBs No, I Utah. mean I went a had few a 1letter people, reference of basically but I from think cold. a shoe-in? NBC, mean Princeton, You to went wasn't I have Rockefeller let's Michigan, out there think Plaza, about Harvard, with 29 the and the and all some boys kid from from Yale, that. intention of learning JOHN A. BROPHY more about step JB: #1 in the back So guide. You was guide brass kids and Parade know, Dana. they could uniforms I he he Herlihy real you a are was is now. well page studios you It get away a minimum name is Jose and cocktail I as are 30 or cold a to working day, did six wage or pres; and not famous a beer might and good minute have Bill or have two been stand-offish buddy. hang to people. Jiminez," Wallace used Center. flat other wasn't you a of always thing," hours couple Mike Strike new eight did the a forty They of where Lucky a You that is Rockefeller like the keep "This his you. a to Bennett, with. for "My He time does was I groups your at for clean have think Cole Well, taking Tony absolute were would but as Nat a with is is as uniform studios. 1is that particular, together. then Here did for We there, I There in here where week that. One is It works, much." tour. your easily Studios? "Now the very guided whatever would television blue toured the you keep I NBC braid. through "Thank a you Universal gentlemen. 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Fortunately because feeds were Tuckahoe, Walt. glitches, and fneat Rich," 5:00 or of it to operational, we then producers page the any this course everywhere. "Strike two operations. took and of about go jebiuwith everything Talk city of that radio apartment White Framer, with hamiSsayEiingiswhatisa job. independent are lines of somewhere. the operations, monitoring would there see duty I T monitor network. and up job report -the to moved Our was heavy all My midnight. the to “BigRRayaff that people resume went and before my in the into New month just in those in the JOHN A. BROPHY garage That #1 and is at out about all. produced on a I "“Strike It building, a from they do people My mail. dying kind a in to or (1) (2) look really average. that Walt it Randy have been same and way on had that or Rich" they my job these do it. I savvy to do Warren and Bess both shows. Anyway, a contract they do 812 with it now. 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BROPHY just #1 1ike package fee. Merv the show From course get is go to went going any These little quiet if couple of the when live. television bad when give me "Maybe." Walt these calls 1951 some I really me in I "John, going am "Wow said, man!" to am said, "Well, real game that I will 33 some said, be hold up a just a was all iis ailil this et e funy, learning you maybe are not you will said, in, right? well, day--I am they one say, of "Walt Ehink that it there." Walt says, big "I a He am T or us show." one are joke in sol we we This "Hey, job give really people--and make He and hadat they my a noise Y52, 2is00PoM. "I tell will i Of before I says, office optimistic important.”"” thought, think the wantsEoMSce S veoulat I I show please and T show. because be..." myssjeband Walt the coming, sign. to fel€ " that at for much was up." flat the audience maybe the This was them the signs, going warm always and are shot So studio too production. a during we e you So up they ship "Thanks making That T tight fun hold gives Carson, produced applause I are a the lot minutes EESllovedi up a iveloficourse. deadly they say, you of fee and are help network money. warm Johnny the air have and running more to the to two. flat were out on and that they don't ¢« Griffin, changes am here." bringing in is I my JOHN A. BROPHY nephew to Mervyn be our thought away. #1 I I from new the operations was going to said, "walt I [END hardware OF get. manager, Well, thought SIDE 34,35 ONE business OF I I-TAPE] a was who is job totally going that blown I THIS IS TAPE ONE, SIDE TWO WITH JOHN P. BROPHY. THE DATE IS FEBRUARY 4, 1990. THE INTERVIEWER IS TIM LARSON. [THIS IS PART OF THE EVERETT COOLEY ORAL HISTORY' PROJECT.] RE Okay, JB: He he called called have to new me that I are in bring manager my are you have be of see later. tight I said, with you. we summer a I my and doing in New I had some lot of I Jewish give Mervyn sorry, I hope that you leavie I . sure do leave I but I have this." I said, Walt lost 1left a little and and her I friends I do wife get ahd stayed for a week of weeks a great, to Salt "Oh, what home. That hung in a will back we had I is her you and sister. sent this. have couple to So I a give "Well, there first wait will to interest I jazz. that to in great one you have hang York." great family. will mother the "John is me can't her said, I thought this you have sweet She He be I no pay, happens." "Walt, 4ff " youd with to is I you changes there ‘real "I big going said, but "If square is job." and tell he I melisbuti to what City to, said, making and and severance homebody. Lake am that "I%am He Carol, great heard very very fun." honest are it hated been and give months really in get S Eayaitwitthes two lot to said, understand." "I qualified rather wall S nephew going shet " " He said, operations." certainly families in. and of was would I you a out walk and up JOHN P. BROPHY #1 apartment tried TS In JB: She with to the is back get some other she home Salt to Utah. friends that HEahSn were of has his has asked and Reid that technical live rooms in Montana. except Hotel Reid and two of us. PEe The TV station? JB: Yeah, and of film and live news. el I course can contEoil syndicated show. we do still that the to the <37/ end is a Montana Butte. send still He you alive) will do all programming." We had couple of in a F-i-n-l-e-n station only this of was "It to Reid were S boardi®punching: in what in is on programming The back Butte, (he some meantime, going air. We Finlen, the drive saw 'said, in are I am KOPR-TV the news. put up the all I He In engineer on so Fitzpatrick for and remember At now year. permit transcriptions. I and Beach So Cooney station the army. Ed the you Myrtle another help and NBC lonely appliiicatien.’ named Carpenter, am Jiohns STV for I in the construction nothing at in ébout us and asked ours upttofput the Lake cur take from home. stopped ERUS3 S to friend is I happenting®witht going pages jobs. meantime in other the was live that all Tim, the! Reid Butte, air, thing day, wup’ in 16 was the mm the sitting half would ‘hour be JOHN P. BROPHY #1 over checking say, "Okay the Reid, one." He said, news for two board. It when hired LR Now did Carol JB: No, she did not I home came there. was traveling my life television career sell in me lot of the stage B movie on was two kind for born of I fun, syndication of star in oy -39 sthe degrees. terrible. We that theater those in days. Ehelstatilon 38 I who He great I had Butte I ‘andiso hotel of these all met now had do He of head of came Mala I of up had me Powers, local 'forth. one a wonderful picture with and the friends. a would in is eight period first syndication. became or that meet Lorimar. film remember the out at seven 1lived you Danon, of grew walking was during Dalton I the home. A about friends fun. run Mlleoking’ Butte where film. the and remember degrees. weeks. television promeotilonsiE I That is some doing there? wind. and salesmen. long this gradually back I there? Kevin for in do. punch there they went =-39. no up off son It was you out Wsnighttiland! a just back Montana. was there My up one there months. to be Then I engineers there run and move go Fortunately up I would people it was out fun. temperature, I get really ever were whatever and other long and minutes o BN ERe I Einilleniis How I "Sure." was and amps stand That is to a on a up in JOHN P. BROPHY #1 my scrap book here their own they got way that was I it was doing somewhere. permanent always then? was born in there and went back came now permanently the construction geingitEul lSborell capacity another, or station 96 08 o8 JiBis Yeah, he was what spring of '54, definitely March and think that of '54. KUTV were really fosMIKUTVAN like was hell was I they I the and I maybe working in some going and to be Gallivan die? 50/50, too let so So I still at being said, the and Hatch and old. up we had that pretty 39 a let you blah. He do little am going Now in '54 but in the "I He Anyway am said, it was ownership. to and 100 that?" said, dual I a with anyway." thing." my Hatch connection young, to station did television manager. I'm in whole Much they why blah, the thinking whole owned, line about have around. the "John blah, him station years keeping I keen am much Corporation there," may five like permit very of "Well, all "I am still percent. said, not '53. is back Christmas. in Fitzpatrick Kearns 50 thing for thinking I instead percent He of and 1968 regret for did the ended which went Iwasiiworkinagil manager. was--when I in November back had TRl was home that personnel, planned. That Kevin I Anyway have I am a shot twenty- nevertheless I JOHN P. BROPHY #1 think that I had been could give me a chance. out. You know, Heftel a months before that calls me in Eime e that used "John, I is and least so no good, then gave his air in So in of Walt on when strained about, deal. This ‘buddy "ef hils that went to the to can be You don't program know, and he is Brent is our guy relationship I Kirk. He get Brent thought I party » but: fairly 40 I said, said, get a director a has Kirk do I T Mr. will said, Well, I Gallivan 23 percent did graduate 'aminot intelligent, we wonderful He now." own or He salesperson." chance?” for "Jack shot?" this good with Corporation, colifecieyasiilliovesto I Brent hal am July--I leolid publisher. iget because I the I my four manager." sdentty Kearns-Tribune alcoholic; to ability but able Cecil '54--Gallivan Brent was me now? job. Tiack I station talking you good is our was take or Framer Tribune name news, this you the His good be "Oh, a for they about June October another that son-in-law around. the on assistant are saidy this am him on it's Post. promotional later go work saying said, find and to Gallivan, what kept went have come Who and I at isinet s fanidiyisbutiit s dishan Washingtop to George we we If like shot think qualified and ‘a drunk I have I “0oh, mean, became of the from or an done JOHN P. BROPHY some #1 nice denty things my Sales I think Manager. I Kirk was one his some minute guy next and we my traveled to it is day You know, of and down a a out of there. first New going just shot, job York in: was with next to do you idiot didn't know he where was would be day am I and you you and ‘Brent this, did I Brent One and why I Brents minute. this if National with manic-depressive, the Brophy you me " hadtdsa s runy kind are Give ‘mes that dadifokay SR Thene up own. carryitthelibalilsicget heartbroken. R on do the tfiat. stood with him. Tlye You B I traveled went to a New ENclisSomwenti past T could see to open had a Suzie artist somel to half ithime Brent So four ST Siwask decided agency who's dad sales manager for Bill says, "John, that named andBERytting. million Dave #8E a year." Burton, so was it soid wasn't going I the Lake was station because married Bill Harris account have was on my But Christensen We Fhavesrarticles: 41 who T and rightis leave Salt Rytting Brent okay,,' and in with alils to be a York? times manager Bill Rytting, New andWEsdilds was I named Harris or to Salulot advertising friend Products. him three HUAL that an happened bill Eol anywhere. and with York RSelds get lot who will wonderful Burton, that. to Diamond alone a I Brophy I have JOHN P. BROPHY #1 announced to agency just and he want getting me." Jack to I said, get you am going to start "Well, that is good." out anywhere Well, and at from this know, I corporation. I handled Ironing, a couple was our and Christensen "Wow man, Los if I Angeles? Lake in same thing in to L.A., going 1955, happefis. and I can If She would can sports tall cotton, Carol came agency the a at job, a rounds chance. MCA I and I was be will I a a never walked S think® agent's Nat was or Abrams 42 will see what drive down job with a So I Sherman and whatever and I who the I television had I a was maybe an pictures am a became a was in and daytime making getting appointment my *big am show Oaks successful, with Salt that show that' in Carol there. I about doing got own in TV okay. year would I the thought, year we I my forget, in background®and™ name told me. house did what a help Ironrite We a not from Lake, and fairly host can Salt I me week if you am I distributor a I then rounds. gave a once to with rented down. So come They "I but $50,000 here the for I a said, I referral $25,000 stay not make cars make make ad thing. dealers. in Angeles." Alexander-Bailey. on car this a little Distributing, mainstay, you did of and got Bintz can Los family station never do I I this a and shot. great my The power JOHN P. BROPHY in the #1 business interviewer "Brophy, is there they as to write. talent, you are that not many in extral froem when my I they We of won't Tl No, JB: From soon the hired I ‘I job of that show I through okay, go Brangham and Holtzer. The Fallon, Moon, name 18,000 guys spoken, as well know to sell, how they of getting their a the job L.A. it to could that had another is made them copywriting. with real 1little I So I not any a Alexander-Bailey. you are and emergencies. sold know Besides, have I out permanent didn't still "Salt don't being comfortable got damn are still did said, said, mistake. show. the God there in all and As a agency. stuff. ahead. Alexander-Bailey became any right, am the I and was am with and that's I me was He think he he this." and huge Well, me go a at are don't ever something Kkinescope result produce Grandma. got own to you then well they days, borrow you as Griffins. those looked there making good." He but how are Merv money always are, Don't right leokwat 1looking, know but think potatoes, you don't you twell) good educated on, talent. makes small as that new Tlsatid, Lake how for what geadat later I go to Brangham, and changed 43 then but Fallon and & Company. Moon, Brangham, the people and Brewer That then and basically JOHN P. BROPHY stayed was #1 the only same. I didn't the air once on locally with a death. slow World good that accounts. here. this other again. After kind of in starting in '59. can up our corporation That was 'said, Carol shotEA" NSof immediately week. I that with the I you country a little Teletape station, radio it at study I and other 44 and I and and all. sent the you a size separate run report that. to?" I my a nights own production around market outside it rand & alise pictures me He said, give five sold They Keys, back have studio medium come was the I was will I Lakes tape SWlic0 I one back." Hatch. I This go of offered Salt can infslilke and all 2. Lyle Kirk home Ampex and do show. am with you lot video you "Who back backs Channel to operations. go wentel got my to to I to time a missing the want and said, report recorded ran I am division Teletape wants e tape were and if died Formica getting said that handling expired that weeks Leisure I I I Rossmoor minute By Gallivan then there here? video and am starts television, twenty-six But show we something, "Well, I a between. called "Well, and wait are for handling later. TV more thing and Carol why week am was the job, "Oh, head I No, any car Brangham, No, link a sports But under National. was the do a of time for the tape engineer, JOHN P. BROPHY set up #1 Teletape country. Carpenter taped a I called "Men, was a didn't show IREAE circulation is a $7.50." RE I that the Speed" to do you it call the Speed' 1library They you can have still took my only guy you know, Tewidsle ook i for Okay, it is doing my radio have two have John only ToiTiss When JB: 1953EEES two was calling it and and here that for important. in the a copy because nevef gave it £files Dean back. The I a definitely there. running Teletape, am nice Kevin then home and Kevin. and So I am I now it, those are and ‘they are Carol. John? That's boys. born? SiiE HilsasnowMn me is show, Kevin ol and "I Dean? children, first get say, ‘that. children was copy there, two to it 1 brary "Well 1s like we but and say, it. but right, SEsE Vblaaroundisdthatdshow, would 1961 okay, anybody I sell was to speed did and in upiisintsa = Bonneville." and own syndicate quite wound the his Flats to It in with Salt hoping unit that Moon my on R inaliliyis never somewhere. You built money about Salt, mobile Bonneville. where show 'Men, on best out and enough okay. need show Salt, have was the Reid hands. It with from L.A. Lilkke s "6 or: "Brophy, what 45 Y62 are you doing in JOHN P. BROPHY Utah, #1 we and need you can $45,000. days. and® you It I have was am something they know, L.A. and major I you trial worked You syl in came tell to can come ad down and for ask Ehatdhildnte at and jazz and station a! my I a and in Brewer a and good broadcasting for Beach, with my wife, Ssalt Lake. or I am going So we do said, back had a Hollywood because So to real and That '63-'64. 46 is the am I to an go children. 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Carol Yes, she things came it spending "Carol it. you and had to help and a I in lot I got anymore, with on I had used me them these the ad business, up in the it is '67, and more money. hills a '68 very and I have I with my time money starts big got tol a have the all of o0il my good at said, now. a I week doingitatliattile month foot to manager in I I this years their portfolios business. 1964 and eighteen afford power Catalina. keeping, that do hours thirty couldn't I I income almost partnerships 47 a and sixty business for pretty big and money. restless record I am 'startl once got that I little out together spending pretty a them through limited Brophy working taxes, with still Harold wants I I Then a was fun. poor along. the bought so back really of now after got day, go was we rainy to but again pool, '66, to a we we that. until for work." We the adverse s aiidl I Ui boating." in making right Now Boy, to and show Encino, and and not know aEsllcastr We am away want boat back '67. I in '65, along own much up in cooking in. very valley was my out? 1like put don't That had home the come in not of were coming really rolling Does never nice view really dies now got with am have am can't fee mostly locked get out JOHN P. BROPHY of. my So things new we a my he so has looking I year that we got o0il about am My the "Well, we are they anyway." this." the are He of been a ILENVou percent have rate, and get igets and the savings now." we So I take want to still said, got we pay for away the of risk the in the from you worry that That more much to are about you really should giving the dividends up I talking So it started if we sold do with to this, could we vreal 'value' you could put it and have twice the income a 48 very long story it?" He short, the to a what what make run of low. "What it rfln So too of stock, aware have suit. instead account to to Robert the it you up power you have don't finally but you we stockholders So Stilwell we you distributed reasonable would but "If is, going yes, "Are go Gallivan board. saving from I her of didn't says, That just says, government." to tax? "Well risk have Stilwell check get gave on dividends?" Of board, to why till; the percent him business. I 44 put of board, represented and prdfits on sister things excess the meetings. at corporation." gas some dividend on manager much. investing and the for business 1like started the Corporation. Stilwell, attorney I in talking times didn't good. income are Kearns three so are found course the #1 said, in a a 5 you year JOHN P. BROPHY and a and this big life, #1 half Sheila if we them buy to that more of -because end of us job deamatile], shot." have your in those on you but year persuaded there- Scripps. destroyed you and you is a the little I me a the give was 'story-® that your not That gave my sell being the never a or business?" it the "Look that could basicailly words, we can "How condensing Jack, her, Hearst, "How family So really said, loves $300,000 story to what Ehaki¥ils| sister have go the fault Not to dividends telling the I is raise whatever." 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Anyway, the and o0il years, '70. not, Did have friends, and I I have I am think that they money to I left Kearns we gas put work with the something let's going own use I not. had a that it there. was 2 race of So I had world, rich here. back, have lot times have. rarticle Channel I a am me 1969 time, and I really closed or my I year? Building had that look the made should three never around have We to they sell buy bought Channel you and 2 your out? Probably, and money. about sintthe time my what the with sister JB: i s was it, in deal with been sell. gotten I think with and okay, I aura to is have parties, people This time I Not outside That great and e stock yachts, given Gallivan. in the a like got a that the ad big that. Now P.R. 50 and man of By started sister the in that put a it in great ten I not course this Tribune is and had named My deal cash we business. and The of and way. agency great buildings. 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BROPHY horses and parties T T course or she "No." was that That the to be in '81 with just met. my does her She and Germany. divorced a I she So in little we two is I go are very and condo happy all faces get I and 53 kicked rent her I had some I have you in '83 out because and She she and has other is alone a very to hear mother in we are I get because Okay, have '86. it her time. said, divorced fashion, visit and divorce since go week has whom together the a professional, sometimes to I remarried. and Of taken again. children home will do. just together photography, teenage I together very around every there Boucher home want does. So never going She in others '81 have thing sure bachelor I I perhaps there. 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"There has is just the Well, black made a said the she the Time Even be you record had been Your delayed for some Roberta Flack who nobody had room solld@ 28 rain like get to We it go club but last first to McRae, was we starting Sunday flu and three had a was Lionel artists. March 4, 55 I sold like eight release So It and had concert start our a some a new out, sold and our second was series Brubeck Dave Now degree of since we even did founder have was 105 We a pouring didn't a is and that was I Flack. I was here think Hampton, third our First I the Fairbanks. fortune. musicians and organizing weeks "The except I a They was, reason. 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BROPHY a month--I calling calling "John concerts. stretched jazz, it. the So bands, playing jazz jazz and the kind of are is no that you players from I are and about Oscar Mel many are great singers original Farmers, and Tormes the the warm and that wonderful players They in say being one behind will Francisco, and jazz Now there but there of the many are I So him. use local La Jolla. wasn't Jensen, Nadine that just the starving. I jauzci, great Art way music wonderful the am great and lived, San hour you the Jensen. 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He about three reviews for He talented. totally was on off he still weeks the great the trying, he My one on is the that life as a are is own Bel the he an TV Air Pains" music very is stock. of share back there "Growing think the have his does he at Kevin at John I that So own. was and Orchestra but with cars son and own top drummer to son a The going Miller second parks am player, My at Tribune are Glen my professor going a deep. down and we some having very him a the do am I the ago. I remember is is I Percussion. also doesn't his He players. started is will tracked with he great I week and all investment things, nostalgia City of that market things, teaches. Miami, underwriting charity Jazz into Lake and of him am is and Hawthorne. Miami University to I Salt Harry lives a different in hotel have produce time. cats the appraise I consulting local money, you He is see it today. SRS Very and interesting. various things Now, in 1like interest-51/ terms that of after your you investments sold your JOHN P. BROPHY JB: When #1 I sold reinvested gas it limited that is hope that it in coming I was the stock, totally Oklahoma 1981 generally our general dumpers live long since have a enough. lot They three or four years. nine years. There are some little that and income it was Reba and that is will am she of a good give to what she from La you a to go but card, 58 not make think candid income. As I but I the be my the it $300,000 grave, all and she High this June. 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JBN Well, it is her intelligent when andSEEENhast education That others a one were plece in the that I of few being may be good and if you my smart do a up to out for me. have a give real center up fund her total her a I did. that little trust dime. estate. in The I own Northern the wine country. sold this year. Hopefully, am any her something pays to and hospital I did things dying on I around get brother strung gave have shopping going of I 'selid. " It did a is and rich. doesn't Lakeport that spite was daddy of California, think I Fortunately N remained® and is money. shattering drugs, going to questions that thumb I will my I arm the '90s through here give you my yofi tell me number. TL: JB: One question, we about Hal? Well, I believe I am. I think as a I immediately He into Hal that I sophomore produced helped radio me was two when I sales He much. and or Zogg. he 59 him, a for Frank either He local but and Hal senior. writer, started and U. friends. with worked a was he than older years the to came was Can three terrific co-produced so Hal that think became I or mentioned concerts. went he Carmen a lot JOHN P. BROPHY at KUTA great also TV about knew Very he young, it He Because JoAnne that like was thirty-five You guys keep know maybe had remained tragic. Have you filling me to the doctor." They kind died I on didn't take on her in the He died or forty, he of jazz so. He was my in a sounds," we will find we might That is fine these do now because mentioned remember want Frank when that. shit I 1list, he like that. He young for show on here the the KALL. files. it on His guy. common? radio misty the '60s, very writer the you a to early something was of seriously. got in What him go reason.I started through to about why. what way bitter somewhere asking the horribly love much when lung he or a go don't so I emphysema thirty-five will You was and an some was mellow Hal of they for don't very KUTV. kind became I that young. and but paper died "Get doctor. Oh, death said, around think His was screwed wife at that? that thing. by sales friends. heard I #1 "New school I spinner, somewhere. tape have and then You we articles. off close is have to Carmen. I I he was Hatch? 60 go the to worked bought out tape. the with by bathroom. Frank. You Gallivan and JOHN P. BROPHY JB: I TT,s Abe JB: Yes, I know him #1 Glasmann died, Abe. real but was was Abe. I What was his He well I with mentioned, you knew then. L.A. in was I guess was of did on the course. I in a board disposition? of What on GENUS TL: This to the and TN he bone would cany¥hear ends February the 4, 1990. every say, time. "For thathiserthofi interview Tim [END of at man. I what all? didn't year he meetings board KUTV. his personality? very ' logicallc buti would rattling be George, sake He just do thingfnow. with Larson OF TAPE] 61 lot George God's him forget was Strengipewerfult, S nobulliltsha i cut know wonderful a certainly you is John the P. Brophy interviewer. on JOHN P. BROPHY 1268 VIA BARRANCA, LA JOLLA, CA 92037 [phone] concerts,graduated 1948-1951 Radio show University 1951=1952 Guide NBC Radio New York. Night Operations NBC New York. Production Assistant "Strike Rileh " and St ThelBitg Payoff! 189531954 8954 =1955 Programming Sales & 1955 Part IEGEE=I959 Account owner Manager, & Production Programming KUTV Executive Host Teletape Inc. TV Diamond Rytting ad Bailey video jazz promotion. investment hostly Marketing automobiles. Butte,Mont. TV agency and Fallon show on production jazz shows and retired. and Some local appraising Salt & Sports arm Brophy LaWeilillap i Cailtatts It Lake local radio KOPR Los angeles advertising and local radio show two years KNOB. Fallon & Brangham, Tempo Advertising, Clinton E. Frank, and 1969-now & weekly up Salt Alexander of KUTV. Also local concert promotion. 1963-1968 start Burton,Brophy Los Angeles. Cars. 1960-1962 jazz local KALL, of Utah 1951 Co. Lake