P. T. Reilly correspondence with George S. Tanner, 1972

Copies of typed letters from P. T. Reilly of North Hollywood, California, to George S. Tanner in Salt Lake City during 1972, continuing their conversation about their research, including their efforts to locate information and historical documents. Topics include the history of northern Arizona, Mormon settlement and missionary work with the Indians, and related topics.

9202 Raintree Drive Sun City, Arizona 85351 February 2, 1972 Dear George: My apologies for goes I ike th is. the long silence, but have I been busy! It Near the end of December we received notification that our house was completed. Since then we have sold our home in North Hollywood, bought the new one, moved, and (by gum) we ore now residents As the kids say, "Oh Wow!" of Arizona. here hos a smal I camper on a 3/4 ton pickup and I rented a b ' x 6 ' x 14 1 U Hau t tr a i l er ( n u ch ch e ope r h ere th an i n Ce I i for n i a ) and we came over on January 23 in one load. It was a super way to move. A goodly port of the load was books and research materials. We took only a few choice items and our paintings, and Susie is now having the time of her I ife glowing over some new furnishings. I've been trying to shop and get good prices on to standard things, and I' I I tel I you that few women are educated make proper selections of items such as washers and dryers etc. A person really has to get down and compare features on competitive models. A friend However, we are nearly settled and could take weren't fussy about packed boxes being stacked in two guests if they in every room. Ve now have o three bedroom, two both house, with one of the bedAs of now it is the main rooms being;set up for my writing room. mess, but we can see day I ight ot the end of ~he tunnel. We miss our beamed ceiling and our view but then we have o good view here, too. By aH means pay us o visit next time you are near Phoenix. beiore you heod We are easy to jind and l' I I give you directions I con a most throw a stone to one of the ha f-dozen go If south. courses. l won't comment on your interesting letter of December 30 until I w i 11 make you a xerox of the I ater when l have more time. Winslow article also. ,1e took possession of the house on Jan. 6 ond spent a week in Sun City at that time. Saw Silos Fish one morning. Al I of his father's original material is now in CHO. Silas is fine and amazingly sharp. ·~e got a birthday card to him on his 92nd birthday, which brought Davis Bitton sent a warm letter the dey before we left California. me a copy of Dialogue and some reprints, most of which l gave to Silas. He said my review of his father's book was far and away the best of those he hos read. This moving has been q.uite an experience. 1•ve spent money and used I didn't know I hod so I am regenerated in more ways than muscles 9st v~t'9 hJp~yifo+RavtPOSt a~~zi:19 co!omunity I have ever seen. ,le f left Lal 1forn1a and look forward to a busy, productive I ife here. Before leaving I knocked out several articles for various quarter I ies, among them the Kanab UO for UHS, so I am a free man to return to Lee's Perry. I am supposed to be at Grand Canyon for a symposium this week but I'm not going to make it. Days are fine and warm here but last night it got down to 39°. Hope al I is wel I with the Saints in SLC. Thanks for the invibut impossible to make it at this tation to the Tanner dedication time. Best regards, PTR AFFICTED_:Wi~low, Ariz., hit by a slump. . ,. Till\tlmap wear.- It e m p l o y s 250,· about 75% of the Indialil from the Hopi and Navajo tribes whose vast reserva.. tionsJie north of the city. Even so, according to Culbertson; "Our outlook is very bright." "I don't think we're going to have any particu• 1ar problelll in the economy here just because of this little drop in population,• ..besaid. B o t h Culbertson a n d Mayor Whipple reported a ·:,Winslow'sPopulation Withel'SAmidBooin j Continued from 'tblra Pa1e · liona of Southern CaWor- Winslow'• a wa~p en· a -slightwiden• :,:~-m&,M ,V.;~• (Intersta•; ' llian1 ~- ,:_,·rou.te- .1;;,4-0) . on , the · ~•1. · •~ thro'VlhTexaa·~- Okla-i " homa to Chicago ..· . Its. gaudy ne~ .':? oned i.helwdy 1 '"·'·i , dtlvvrwho j $e J)1d ldgbway ·: from Soutbml ;CallfonLa ACl'OIS who couldbe 11.lrld to· motel room, any IQOtel . indl\fflt. • ·Manager M. .L. (Cub, Culbertaonbu wnttea 360 compeJ\ielwhlcbmight ht persua4edto mo_ve or to branch plants . . · ·tacepuut·tnih. .• 200-mlle,trip ~h1ch en~red !lilliiil~- ....,. . :v.s. 86.trotn . .• to ·GtJlup. · ,, p's ~h faJ.... •ttrlb\lt~ · driven WhQ Ir ·tn the mom- . Angelf!Iand . ·to pull over . . f n fatigue overtook in Winslow, which sU• astrl• main Atchison, Topda-~ Santa Fe Rall,. roadiline to Los Angeles q well . a tha maJor crosacounttylligtlway. .· .."-Many'have expressed~ an JQte'rest," Culbertson aaid. I ·· r .OJaeNew Plaat But so far, -nohe of that interest has been followe(l by a decision to move to the eastern Arizona city. The only new plant manufactures B.V.D~ under • -~~us t.Q rest. to counteract the population draiQ., ~1 atttaetin, new open .b,eck.. hal p_u_she,d-~--.. Chamber of Commerce is eying 55% inerease in Winslow tax receipts over the last five yeqrs. Whipple, owner of a ready-;to.wear store, said his own business doubled "six times in the last 10 years.'' Much of the increase, he said, came from improved economic c o n d i t i o n s among nearby Indians, as well as changes in lndian taste. Cl•ginc Demands •It used to be," Whipple said, "you either catered to the Indian market or to the Anglo market. Now, it doesn't .matter. The Indians buy the same clothes as everyone else." But indians do pose another problem for Winslow taxpayers. Winslo maintains a 24-m·an p< lice force, large for such small city . "We have about 100-a <lay attendance at o jail," Whipple said. 110,.·rr in Prescott (which ha about 14)000 populatkm they only have a capacit~ of 24. Most of Winslow's pri soners, Whipple said, ar Indians· arr e s t e d f o drunkenne,ss along 1st St a sleazy collection of din bars fr o n t i n g the ra · yards; a street littere with .empty wine bottle where it is possible to fin oblivion by 9 a.m. an where fresh-dried bl spots in front of a tave mark _last night's mar even~ · .. 1 -"Wedon't really h• trouble with. I 11d 1a n Whipple l *..... 33 p . f 1ahon :h:·~;J_nt~e~m:ht~re~; opu 0 w· IowFaIIs-•.' ,ns make ·eoo ,nState,·, m Mrs. Ayres' husband was transferred to Winslow six years ago from Denver. Sh.e sound~ a,~ though .she misses Den\'ef, "Even, Santa Fe men •Jioinetimes they aet'dliil,andwe put th .. jaJt JO they won't get· ·,~ Then in the :rnomthg·rriaybe ·we get theli!l' to1 (kt a little work . ' ' 1nd tMn .turn them loose." Soae·merchants have effort to Windnr. more· attracti~e. But it~..temains a city .per~ ,on red desert clay w h e r e .restless w i n d I sometb:Desrattle windows a.nd blow bright-cQ}ored -dust against the small houses. Mrs. Darleon Bomkamp is in charge of a special . joint Woman's Club-Cities , Service ''B u s t n e s s for : Beauty" campqign. So far, she reported at a recent meeting, only four local businesses l1ad.joined. B o t h Culbertson a n d Whipple lauded the effort to diagnose and change c o m m u n i t y i 11s, a s evidenced by the meeting, which covered Winslow's problems ranging fr o m whether it has a reputation as a speed-trap for tourists to the iack of recreational facilities. "We tr.ied to pick a group," Culbertaon said,. "that would rep~nt the whole community. "What we're trying to do 1 men here they they industrial development in way ~- "They say they transferred •t a r o u n d so much they don't have any roots-heft,. IO when d,ley lea•e satif·iA they aotnew-blilre.iliie.• mOYe . · 1 here." Housinf Situation Despite Winslow's pop-. ulation loss there are few empty houses in townonly a few substandard ones long abandoned. And there are more new ones of r e c e n t construction than abandoned old istruc- . tures-a .fact reflected by ; the Winslow Water parment's monthly billings, 2,604 this year compared to 2,425 in -1963. In fact, Winslow is ~hort of rental units, according to Fred .Itynd.e, head of the C. of C.' industrial promotion drive. Lynde re p or t e d the shortage of housing hindered efforts to lure industry. He also deplored Winslow's "llick of shop.. ping centers, a lack of reoi,. reational facilities. partic.ularly for adults, a lack of doctors and dentist~ and .a lack of funds to promote Hate,,._,._,.. they retitt, .. Mrs. Ayres frf., Nov.2', lf1l-P1rt I Just under 1w·:. . ·· • Cea~ from~• Pu• loltead or funn,1:1nr on• way traffic through t~ on 2nd and lrd $ts. AI th ·ough Culbertsott llid th-,.' was no decline in motel 'bushless--tourilm still brings in the most mon~y--effects of the bypau remain to be seen. A Jarpr city, ·Gallup, N.M., with more toutist attractions, lle3 just 120 miles to the east; the more attractivl Flagstaff at it~ cooler 7,000-feet elevation less than 70 miles to the . west. When all of 66 meets Interstate standards, drivers may decide to push on to either larger towrL Winslow .bas attracted none or' the smart, market. researched money of t \'to major motel chains. R oliday Inn and Ramada l nn. Both recently built large units in Ftagsta!f and Gallup A recent e-arlJ morning random . check of Win~ slow's motels shOW"ectn.o cars parked outsittt sever. al and le&'i than capatitv outside otbet'$. At the same timef although it was · the tt:>uriit."off - s e a I o n~ most major motel i.n Flagstaff reported nearly fall houses. · Sehool Rollt Down Breakfast ousinu, wu lesa than brisk at two high1t'ay· coffee ahops-three occupied tables in one; two in the other. Winslow ~ool enrollment' declined but,slightlv between 1961 and . 1971. There were 2,714 studE-ntJ in the city'~ .foure)ementdry and junior. and senior high schools l O years ag0. Now, 2,652 are registered.· But the breakdovm lw gracie is revealing. High school-grade~ 9 through J2-actuallv showed an in- creast of 207 during ths 10-yearperiod. But grades kinrl ..rsui·ten through 8 ill l l s h o. \ rl losses--with 1,,-st, g;nw. ing larpr •• the grjlde !ev- e] declines. Kinder tu·ten . \Vhat that meaqs tor the futur_eor\Vins?o,+•--Unless new ind ustry comes in-b acceleraterl population decline. Families are srnaller .and roung people of ~hildbearmg age are leaving. The PUJ blamed .F1. A. Dahlen, superin~ndent of schools, blamu birth control pills for the decreased enrollment ·at lower levels. , The chilri , age--Jevels lnf'olved would aieem to corroborate th(" theory. for they corr~~po~d to the period in which the Pill achieved itl'I most widespread use. At the Winslow Mail Mrs.Ayres also mentioned birth control as probably a major factor in the low. ered elementary enrollment, but she also ex- (in one department) ! and over in Amarillo have too many. But don't want to come the area.'' Winslow once watched the daily passage of Sarita is reactivate the interest ·Fe's main transcontinental passenger trains: the that ha-4. decliPed." Scout, Grand Canyon Lim• ited, Chief, Superchief and Mrs. !l.itpret .,Ayrett,,·· El Capitan. editor of the, ~,200-copyFreight Volante Up Winslow Mail, . a weekly Now passenger trains newspaper, is, less' san- . tte down to one A.1ntrak guine than others. special, .• eh daily, "There's a lot of hate in 11 · this to w n, -she s.a 1 d, : No. 17 westbound to Los Angeles at 8:30 p.m.; No. "'There's hate between-In• 18 eastbound to Chicago at di.ans and Anglos, Anglos 8:25 a.m. and Mexicans, railroaders But freight volume is, if and non-railroaders, evanything, increased. Santa ..erything." The Santa Fe railroad, · Fe officials say 30 freights come through on an averfor which Mrs. Ayres' bus,. band is an auistant dis- } age day. Winslow's 400 m o t e I patchet,ts-Winslow's big~ · gest employer, with 85()· rooms invite tourists from U.S. 66, but the new Interjobs. Winslow is a Santa state 40 along the 8fJroute Fe 4ivleion point head~ the city quarters, a 1 t h o u g h 10 , , will cu~,-~ ,-ears ago it. lost its round• Please Tuna te P1. 33, Col.I , house and other main~- · an~ activities to Bat$t&t', ·. €allf. . ;•r .• "Not rnariy or the rail•· road men ttay Mre when . ~1rupped 1 remo4eledstorefronts in a ,.COl!lDl~ . ; fo:- .:>XJ:tmpt~. ::!0t: Sth [!rad,-, ~nt·<Jiunent, n,tltf .Ctmtf 1 pressedpuzzlement. "We'v~ got an a\\rfuI 10, 1f Catfo.llks and !-tformon.i~ here," .Mrs. Avres said "and the.v· both ~believe 11·'. large families." . Whatever the ca u !'le-~. 1 \\ mslow has seen a stP-ad; e-~1ion of its status amon;::Anzona dtie~-and therP aren't m:my m a ~ta'..~ ,,.-h~rplialf the population lives in Greater Phoenh .. Boom for Kingman Ten year~ ago, Kingman \Ya11half the size of \Vinslow. Kow it claims 10 ooo residents. up .even ·r;om the official 7,149 of the 1970 census. Kingman at the junction of t: .S. 93 ;nd · .lnterstate 40, occupier< about the same position asI a gateway in. northwestern I, Arizona as Winslow doe~ ; in the northeastern quar I ter. But Kingman, doi!,e u, booming Colorado Rivc<>r resorts, has drawn new business. The only recent new business establish~ ments clted by C of C man, ager Culbertson In Winslow were three retail 1hops. And at th~ sam• time, the J. C. Penney store closed up, although perhaps only temporuiJy because of a iost lease Despite prospects lhat . ·' seem as bleak as Win .. sloYv'swindswept location, both Mayor Whipple anrl Culbertson expr~~ optimism. "\Ve're going to go up,• Culbertson said deter-· minedly, "and we're rojng . ".' ,. to go up slowl~ \r.i li . oo4 industr,-.• I 9202 Raintree Drive Sun City, Arizona 85351 February 14, 1972 Dear George: It seemed very good to receive a letter from you once again. This move raised cain with my correspondence. Except for badly needed, my writing designing and building bookcases room is rounding into shape. 18 miles NWof Phoenix on the highway Sun City is located running to Wickenburg and known as 89, 93i and 60. Between here and Phoenix it is known as Grand twenue. It runs NW and SE and as. i t cuts the ma j or E-W street s there are 6 way i n t ernorth and south of sect ions and signals. Sun City extends We are north of Grand about a half-mile and on Grand Avenue. In f~ct, we are the extreme eastern edge of the community. almost on the bank of the New River. Whether you come from the north or the south (Phoenix), the best route to take is the Black Canyon Freeway. Turn west on Thunderbird. After crossing Sun City almost immediately. Take the the New River one enters Turn right on Bolivar first street north, which is Boswel I. a.nd the f. irst street r..' ig~t is f.{aintr~e. W: ar:e_.&t. the SE end±of a short culdesac, facing north. Phone 1s JlJs.t 1nstalted: (uni isted) Area code 602 - 977-5965. By al I means pay us a the guests visit. Our guest room is ready for use, providing don't require twin beds. Your mop is slightly outdeted if it credits people. It is closer to 20,000. At feast in a recent Home Owners Assoc. letter. quoted finishing about twelve new homes a day and People moving in constantly and new ground There's lots of money here, also churches, closest is Glendale. P/2. Sun City with 3000 that was the figure Del Webb is growth is phenominal. being broken daily. but no LDS. The i~ Provo ~ent the page from the Church M~gazine_relati~g A fr!e~d fl~ored me. I guess Or. Arrington ,s the CHO shift and 1+ really the first Church Historian who has not been a member of the Twelve. I see that they fol low the present vogue of creating new titles and shuffling the old ones so the wee folk can't tel I who is on third. Who is on top, Leonard or Dyer? Anyway, with my I imited I am delighted that Dr. Arrington knowledge of the pros and cons, ·was, selected. lf a copy of Henry G. Boyle's diaries came my way I would be broached him to you I didn't mean to imply deJ ighted. When l first that l knew too much about him but l was impressed with his naive frankness in what I have read. I would think he would have mentioned more then one Tanner. He certainly told it I ike it was in San Bernardino. However, the CHO Ms on the SB Mission wil I be "'1 - 2 - remembered if lever do anything in that direction. If the reactionaries would only learn to harness the abilities I iberals, a steady growth would be insured. Odd of enlightened that Joseph City should have been the lone LDS town in Arizona to solve this problem. Despite the bitter experiences of the pre-~anifesto days, the island average reactionary LOS envisions Mormondom as a I ittle of enlightenment with a continuous Hfavorable balance of tradeu from the Babylonian world around it. The more the Saints build up their own good and look down their noses at the world's evil, the farther they slide into unreality. The significant point is that they manufacture and elaborate on their "differences". In so doing they build up the sect but lose their humanity. The black segment is attempting the some course and from similar motivation. If Now George, don't let the antis rile you. Let 'em squawk. they don't I ike it they can move. Those who have the priority in any locality can ~y hold power if they have the wi 11. I don't I think the think the Saints are in any trouble in the SL Valley. Saints rune pretty good show and history shows us few examples of local governments being run better by any other group. One of the reasons we dislike California is because of the unprincipled One has to be black to politicians at City Hal I and Sacramento. get action in LA these days. The blacks don't want their fair representation in government or jobs - they wont them all as long in LA are 61 ack or as Whitey foots the bi 11. ~vhoI e departments becoming so. Whites won't oppose them but move on. Mexicans give blacks their only opposition. 1 The Haight material interests b y J e b o c M i I I er '? 0th er w i s e you get two xeroxes? me. Are you sure it wasn't written was i t in h i s paper s ? •'Ih y d i d n ' t wh y Reflection causes me to come up with the probable answer to Seth's San Diego coal mine. Our problem is semantics. Too many people don't differentiate between a prospect-hole and a producing mine. l know Seth's G.C. hole never found or produced ore, yet I have heard this hole referred to as the ._Tanner Mine". There is plenty of copper stain but no paying ore. Of course Seth might have been drawn there in the first place by looking for John O. Lee's supposed mine. Bod luck comes al I at once. My 82 year oldt',.mother had a s1 ight s.troke Feb. 2 and went to the hospital. ~e got the news .)eb 3 1 the same day I came down with the flu - the first sickness I've But I recovered fast and was up next day. hod in 25 years. However, Susie got a worse case on Saturday and was in bed for over a week with 102 temperature. Think she is mending now as her temp is less than a degree high. Being chief cook, bottlewasher etc. does take time, which doesn't help me straighten out my research materials. - 3 - Balmy day, blue sky, fluffy moved here. Even if Susie is good for her arthritis. white clouds. Gosh t•m glad we got the flu, this climate really She ached on the coast. I want to go to Tempe and meet Bert Piremon I ibrery, but may woit til you arrive. Did you ever hear fall? how CHO treated and look over the material l strongly recommend the Wolfinger and the LOS-Negro reply to Taggart W~_§_t V.8, ~.6, p.48. article by P.H. dinner. I'm a better Welt, time to start but I cen put out a good spread. Best I sent the you last in UHQ, V.39, N.1 Jonas in The American camp than house regards, PTR cook 9202 Rointree Drive Sun City, Arizona 85351 Pebruary 23, 1972 Deer George: Apparantly our last letters crossed en route. Service here does not oppeor to be as fast os it was in Worth Hollywood as I invariably got your letters the morning of the second day after you mailed them. Here we con odd two doys, both going ancl coming. No sign of Bro Boyle yet but he' I I get o warm welcome when he does show up. Glod to hear that Blonche Rosmussen come thru ond hope she received spiritual benefit from the letter which occompl ished the result. The beautifully sharp pictures coul~ hove been mode while Rust was in Provo - certainly not Kanab. Possibly they were mode by the very talente~ John B. Fairchild who was ot BVAwhen Rust was there. os o pointer but he also was quite o Fairchild was A most gifted photographer. I have run across J. Reuben Clerk several times but have absorbed I ittle detail. Should I? l hope I wil I be al lowed to peruse the Rust material and possibly have copies of some of the photos. I' 11 wager I om the only I iving pers,on who can identify the bulk of them. Could you feel them out on this? Does Arnel I know that it wos my tip which led to the gift? I gave specific instructions of what Bro Judd wanted and didn't want when I identified and mailed the 14 books to SLC. He wil I think I'm on idiot ofter making the deal with him one then not He wonte~ a xerox of the Kanab UO Minutes passing on his wishes. and that is all. He is not the writing type and I doubt that his wife wil I bail him out but eventually she may answer the CHO letter. In a letter to you in October I recommended +hot CHO microfilm the they run off a spare of the four UO books end xerox the Minutes.(lf Minutes, you know where one would be appreciated.) I also recommended that a competent scholar make an honest TS of the Becky Howell diaries, and bind them in one book. I feel partly to blame for Elmer Judd's not receiving his xerox before this but I can't see that I could hove done more to bring about what he expects. I know few thinqs on this earth are perfect but I expect a high out of CHO! fhey reol ly hod their instructions degree of efficiency of the 14 books, so no reoson to see-sow. olong with the gift I hove had work to GO at Tucson for o couple of yeors without being able to get there. l hope it will be easier from Sun City. I would be hoppy to serve St George wh i I e I am there. It w i 11 not be for o couple of months, tho, due to the amount of things which I have to do at home. I w i 11 see Si I as Fi sh on my next free time, then try to see L. O. Mclaws in Meso. Wil I push your recommendations. After Susie spent o week in bed with the flu, I either hae reoction or something caught up with me. My ba~k o~d neck in knots - 1 got very I ittle sleep and was in such misery I wouldn't die. Today I'm returning towel I-hood. afraid the lord! a delayed tied up I was Praise What did the people in CHO think of the finding of the missing Olmec calendar stone? Have they rationalized the 120Q B.C. date for Olmec appearance so as not to conflict with fundomental ist dating? This was a great archaeological find and roises the stature of M. W. Stirling's original find and his interpretation. fhree other clippings for you and I know you will chuckle over He is in former Sen. Watkins (85 years) announcing his marriage. good shape and probably coul~ set the date five years hence if he chose. Did you know Marion L. Flake? Also got the Winslow article copied for you. A lousy job a+ a £un City bank but the only xerox f ac i Ii ti es nearby. l f BT or Jacob cou Id know the fate of the heart of the pipe ,dream, I know their coffins would creak when tbey r o I I ed over • Wei I, the postman just drove up in his jeep and made a I iar out of my first peregroph. He olso let me exhale. DYU's package wos in fine sh ope and Bro Boy I e was we I I pro tee ted. Two vo I umes, I ooks interesting and 1 am sure it wi 11 be. I hoff>e for greater knowledge of the San Sernorgino Mission, the Saints in the gold fields, and possibly a contact with Blythe. I regret that he did not hove more ob out the le n n er s •. Than k you, (;;eor g e • I ' I J g e t i n to i t ton i gh t al"g give more comment later. Are you still planning o visit to Arizona et the end of February? Pine weather; warm sunny days, blue skies, and nights between 45° and 50°. Al I the golfers in shorts or short sleeved shirts. Bring your clubs and I' I I get a frien~ to go aroun~ with you and I' II co~dy. ( I don't play but might learn). Anxious to hear ~our reaction to my latest theory re Seth's "mines". Even to~oy very few people differentiate between a true mine and a prospect hole. A guy has to advance o reason for digging a hole in the ground and I ike to admit tho+ great expectations are fhe old-time miner knew very bosed on very I itt e actual evidence. I ittle about ores or geology but learned that ore bodies often were exposecl at faults and contacts. I hove seen more thon a few coses where shafts were sunk at such places with no evidence of precious metals being present. T·he T'anner "mine" below the little Colprodo is sunk where the lutte fault crosses the Colorado. there are tunnels on both sides. We took a four-foot rattler out of the right-bank tunnel in 195Q. I' II tel I and show you more when you show up. iew Best regards, P. T'. Rei I I y 9202 Rointree Drive Sun City, Arizono 85351 Februory 27, 1972 Deor George: Your proofreoding needs ot U of A wil I speed up my plons to visit Tucson, but previous commitments wil I not ollow me to get owoy for 3-4 weeks. Hope you con stond that spon but I will get it for you os soon os I con. poor shope, o rarity for me. Right now I'm in rother l don't know whether the flu settled in o pecul ior manner or the exertion of the move cough+ up with me, but my tied up in knots ond I get I ittle neck ond bor.k are still sleep. I've token more sspirin in the last two weeks than in my entire life. The quacks give me shots, costly prescriptions and treatments but seem mainly concerned tho+ I visit the office frequently and pay my bil I. I've quit them ond wil I return to California where I know o good osteopoth wil I put my joints back in place and on honest MD wil I find out what oils me. from Bil I Slater Received o nice letter his port in sending me the ~oyle diaries. who I it the fire. I and I thanked him for Of course I know tak~ tt +hot your trip to Arizono hos been postponed. Eighty-nine yesterdoy, os the weother is perfect. at night. Too down to bod, fifty Glod to hear your seorch for John Tonner is reaping dividends. Too bo~ Bro Boyle didn't concentrate more on the various It could hove led to his ttrevivol". Tanners tho+ he contacted. He certainly wos o slot-vliwer in his work for the church. Reminds me somewhot of Jomes S. Brown. The Bo~croft al I archives people have been most helpful hove been nice. Con you obtain the SLC address I know that Mel Smith hos it special for her. if of Juonito you don't. Best to me; but then Brooks for me? Got something regords, P. T. Reilly really 9202 Rointree Drive Sun City, Arizono 85351 March 15, 1972 Deer ~eorge: Recovery I finally me I hod said the and it's our move over 200 load that is in progress ond it can't be 100 percent too soon. found o gem of an osteopath and he quickly informed dislocated two ribs. He put them bock in place end poin from the adhesions would go away in a week or so, just about gone now. Apparantly I I ifted too much on I picked up and my skeleton ,·ust about came unglued. pounds on severo occosions and walked owoy with a was too much for my age. ~o brains! Thonk you for Juon i to' o address. she will but t wil I and I think I hoven' t wr i +ten be interested. her yet Did you see where they made the largest haul of marijuana in at Winslow recently? Man, this is agriculture Arizona history I would even tf it was not o crop Brigham would have selected. there in many years guess it wes the only crop which has thrived and only then because tt was so unexpected. I finished the second volume of Boyle before reading the first volume will be ond was disappointed but I know the earlier He certainly was busy and traveled almost os much as different. A. M. Musser. visit with Silas Fish this morning. His We hod a nice I ittle nose is bandaged from having a mal ignont skin cancer removed. tho+ taken in They grafted skin from behind his ear to replace the operation. Outside of that he is fine and cheerful as ever. He told me a good Lot Smith story which I' II repeat verbally if you haven't heard it. St. George rides again! Had o nice letter expressing appreciation for my guidance of •ilhile 'taint neces.s.ory, it's nice to know I think CHO is the most granted. ~es.ides, most of the mater i a I I m i g h t s n i ff out • from Earl Olson material to CHO. they don't take it for suitable archive for Glen Leonard asked me to review the latest Jesse N. Smith edition for UHQ. Moy toke it on if I con figure out o way to tel I enough nest. Jesse N. taught of the truth without stirring up o hornet's soys o more honest man never Silos Fish to play chess, and Silas l iv ed. The original Joseph Fish diaries are now tn CHO. Believe it or not but they sent Silas o microfilm of the first diary. He horl o q.u•Zzical look on his face when he soid, 0 I wonder what they I. thought I could do with. it?" He ha~ expected o xerox copy. Your to I e of John T·,an n er ' s ex per i enc e s of sh a r i n g w i th the indolent poor was old then and more so todoy. Did you read Leonard Arrington's background for a ploy on Orderville es printed in the Wew Ero, April 1971? I hope you and I con get together this spring in iLC. There is an old man, over 90, whom you have to meet - I hope while I tape him. over the rim of Next weekend Dr, 5utchort and J are going to rappel Canyon a mile or so below the dam and floot in a small rubber boa t to tee ' s Fer r y • I h ave o few s i t e s to v i s i t i n hope s of h av i n g more favorable I ight then in past trips~ ~ten Do you know whether Chas P. or the BTU people made progress in acquiring the Chris lingo Chris. diary at Monticello? If not, I con make c:l'nother try but I may need a I etter from your re I at ive. T'roub I e is, there ore jobs of this nature on o 11 three of Uta,h' s N-6 highways. Since point on. to U my adhesions where dislocated ribs are now easing to the to make good progress from now made and den c I eared, I w i 11 run over I expect care of the LC Minute Book. extra warm here. In mtd 80s today but several have been tied or set recently. ~ood golfing not miss it. Are you going ebout · it. encl: \rom the s eep, When I get my bookcases of A at Tucson and take Weather records better I can to the Logan conference two clippings June 5-9? Feb-Morch weather, l'm thinking 9202 Raintree Drive Sun City, Arizona 85351 March 30, ·1972' Dear ~eorge: Your colleague is healthy again. My treatment on the 27th broke the last adhesions and thet n•ght I hod the first uninterrupted sleep in over two moons. It's great to be free of pain ond mokes me thankful it was only temporary. t know several who oren't so Jucky or else Old ~ick is more reluctant to move. it is sed to see Si I os F rsh harassed by the dogs of o Id age but he bears it wel I and his strong character is revealed. He i~ a greot human being. Yes, rather think Wil I Lund headed Juanita's inquisition crew. With his passing, her present prestige, and the new attitude in CHO, it is not out of I ine to ut i I ize her talents as you have suggested. Good for you for running with the football. I It is too bod about Louetta but at her age, not unexpected. to bleme nature for al lowing However, I think it is scapegoating her to fol Low o noturol process when blokes such os you and I ways to get her to talk when she are to blame for not finding had ful I commend of her facuf;f-ies•~• r om ashamed of the tape t made of her, yet it has some value. These old people would But time is talk for St. ~eorge if he only hod a recorder. running 0ut. Had a n i:ce I etter from EI na Mi I l er who wrote from Pasadena. It wos cold ond so smoggy she hadn't seen the Sierra Modres which rise behind the city, while SLC was clear and balmy. Elno is an A1 lady in my book. What were the last two diories you got from her'l I' I I make another check on the Chris lingo signature. know if I need a prestigious So you know Harvey book and let you Sutchort. I've hod a vo I uminous correspondence with him for many years and hove fed him information which has motivated many of his hikes. Unfortunately he knows · I ittle about Mormon history and is not interested unless he con tie it in with a hike which wil I odd mileege to his record. I doubt that he bowled you over with detai I obout Seth. I hove erticles which mention him ond he hos helped me written severel by checking out items which I would never have gotten to with I imited time in Arizona. Now I think I've finally persuaded him to give more attention to ~len Canyon. Our trip down to Lee's Perry was worthwhile end we caught e couple of Crompton's booboos, as I was sure we would. Next day was spent on Powel I Reservoir where we solved one problem and got a partial solution on another. We hove mode several bock and forth. trips together over the years and hove visited OK, l' 11 try to give proper exposure to the Jesse N. Smith picture. Would you like to moke 0 critical reading before I hand it in? You undoubtedly soved the erosion of my imoge in the Kenob U.O. article I hope. I wasn't poopoob•h19 the belated letter from Eorl Olson and I think we see the situation from the same stump. I also think the story of Apostle Bal lord's former wos most oppropriote for my situation with CHO. I rea I I y ex pee ted to get a th an k you from someone for the Kanob U.O. books and Becky Howe I I diaries but you were the only one to come thru. This wos a major acquisition so I concluded that they considered God had directed the infidel to help Israel regain her records. Proise be to ~od for directing the infidel! Now the fa i th f u J m i n er w i I I i g nor e the absence of a ppr e c i a t i on on d w i I I continue to shovel sand for Israel, while a skeptic might think it." But not me. CHO is o good archive, for o' that and "Forget a' that! And St. George is o gentlemon who makes up for the deficiencies of some who oren't. I got a chuckle out of the clipping regarding the answer to the nasty note. It a I so made Newsweek. The other one about the bi osed views of the news media hit the nail right on the heod as for os I am concerned. These guys have been socred cows long enough. How mony skyjackings were motivated by notorious overkil I on pub I icity? l enclose a clipping for you since I seem to remember +hot you menHope I'm wrong. tioned the unfortunate Pomeroy to me once. l have just latched onto some material on Lot Smith which George, I feel wil I be new to al I concerned. It was so well hidden that it out. It wos so dusty that I am sure only my big nose sniffed it hasn't been seen in modern times. Are you interested? If so I will bring it to SLC in o month or so. It might be too hot to copy, tho. Do you think lot ever poid any tithing? Can you find out? Do you hove ony idea who+ he occumuloted in a land where better men could only eke out o bare I iving? you con find wil I help us both Now here is o toughie and anything tremendously. Jn 1880 a certain Som White was sent to help John w. Youn9~ at Port Moroni.·Undoubtedly he was col led, but by whom? Som !:te·rt~fl~9o-1.uob I e mater i o I but I know very I it t I e about him. Did John Toylor select him ond was he riding herd on the flighty one? Som lost his job to one of John W's hondpicked men, o rascal if there ever was one. I hove reason to believe Sam became disenchanted_ You mi gh t ch e c k to see i f he wo s ex c ommun i c ate d I j u st s I i d ow o y, or remained foithful in obscurity. His cal I would have been ·1sao. living in Arizona hos its benefits! Best regards, - p :r P. T'. Reilly - 9202 Raintree Drive Sun City, Arizona 85351 Apr i I 16, ·1972 Dear George: I was on the verge of writing you when your letter arrived. and no way to read it at home. Not Seems that I had a microfilm wonting to make the long trip into Phoenix or Tempe to take my turn ot a reader, l rigged up a device which I think is superior and it also would solve your problem. to a reader, I borrowed a contact pr~nter and a focusing magnifier. The printer is a box about 6 inches high by i0x10 inches. An ordinary I ight globe is on the inside. Two thin metal plates can be moved laterally over a glass plate in two dimensions to moke a rectangle of any size and proportion from 1/16 x 1/16 to 5 x 7 inches. The microfilm is unrolled a frame et a time over the selected placed over rectangle open to the I ight source and the magnifier the frame. It is read as easily es a newspaper. I went thru a M/F of 400 pp with ease. A 5 x 7 contact printer no t over U2 0. 00 • The con be bought new for f o cu s i n g mag n i f i er , a39.95; used for i s U2 2 • 5 0 new 5 power , and 812-15 used. They are about 2 inches in diameter by 3 inches If l had more homework with high and ere used with a Visaflex. M/Ps l'd buy one. You should be ahle to see both items in ony large camera store. I thought the church Enclosed is an article re an Arizona fiasco. gave the state a pretty good deal and that the article was wel I ~ritten. Do you know why they decided against building the branch I was interested in the objective tone of the article school? in contrast to some of the tirades in the old SL Tribune of the 70s and 80s of the previous century. I wrote to Juanita she is. very busy. we both hope for. Also wrote some time ago but no response I hope your foot in the door The church would be richer. Ray Taylor re Sam White. Thanks for ~s yet. gets the the know response suggestion. George, you have been more than mentioned every time I have Fish. He is one grand old man and my wife and I visited Silas are both very fond of him. Davis Bitton sent me a pack of reprints of my Dialog_!:l~ review of the Krenkel edition of Fish. I gave and he was very pleased. most of them to Silas t•m as busy as o one-armed paper hanger with the hives. There is so much to do here, we have to return to California, my parents want to visit our new home, I have material to locate in about eight towns in Arizona and Utah (some of which I hope wil j wind up i,n CHO), and I wont to complete the Nuttal I material in CHO. And there is much more. I received a letter from G. M. Colton, District Manager of the Arizona Strip office of the BlM,asking my help in locating the into Arizona. They want to reestablish and mark old Mormon Trail the route from St. ~eorge to Lee's Ferry, among other things. I can do this for them and am wil I ing, providing there are no many reasonable objections from SLC. But 11 I I bet there aren't who can locate the old road over the Buckskin. The BL~ is just another bureau, ste~ping into the sphere of the NPS to expand their e greater budget. The BLMdesignates and influence and justify administers primitive areas despite the fact the NPS was previously national parks and monuments. set up to administer Take Glod to hear you are coming along so wel I on the Tanner book. the job. time to polish and don't let Obert C. push you into rushing Did you ever get hold of Clara Lee Tanner? She could be a sleeper. on (LDS) Jock Anderson Did you read the Newsweek April 3 article (he broke the ITT' deal)? If not 11 I I sove it for you. We hated to learn the skyjacker was LDS but some good wil I come out just as in the cese of the multiple slaying in Mesa a couple of it, These comparatively rare cases should show the of years ago. rein on his fundamentalists that God doesn't always keep a tight "favored" children. The skyjacker seemed like a nice young man, hod good relations in Provo, and his case points up that war does I hold the medio highly things to the unwilling participants. Of course they don't hove to responsible in the Cooper episode. help them out by giving them parachutes that work. I think you'll be ple<.,sed with the Lot Smith material l'l·I bring to SLC. Do you think he wos worth U20,000 at his deeth? The building as Louetta Garn gal who I ives in the some apartment told you the truth, but only holf of it. Diantha also wos hung out to dry. Keep a-pluggin'. f?::XP. I wil I be happy to bring some meterJal You might mention me to him so I won't have not set foot on tho+ campus. T • Rei I I y south to Bert hit him cold. Fireman. yet I As 9202 Raintree Drive Sun City, Arizona 85351 May 30, 1972 Dear G;;eorge: Just a quickie to show you my review It 500 words off too was didn't a job of tightrope-walking, of the Jesse N. Smith I imit of let in the right amount of J ight. In feet, I think to let in enough and I'm not impressed that very thoughtful review. I hope your sensitive nose doesn't uncover ~nything t shouldn't have said but if so, use the red pencil. The deadline is June 15 for the review to be in Glen's h~nds, ond I put it book. ~elp.,,tne I foiled I made a to the long. I know you are busy with your Tanner book, l learned to go toe busy mon for results--the plenty and of time doesn't get but early bloke to it anyway. in I ife with We hod@ lulu of a dust storm yesterday just before sundown. A mile-high cloud of dust swept out of ,t~e SE from 20 miles west of Tucson and hit Phoenix at 40-45 MPH. It soon reached us, hit Wickenburg, and petered out between there and the Colorado. My first experience with such o large one and the lost. don't care if it's Been working Most planting week. Thought my f@nny off but stil I not b~ck to the pen. is done, and landsc~ping wit I wind up in another you mtght know the man in the' enclosed clipping. I' I I try to check the original lC Minute Book at U of A in~ couple of weeks and hope my failure to do so previously hJs not inconvenienced you. Keep a-peckin' PTR 9202 Raintree Drive Sun City, Arizona 85351 May 18, 1972 Dear George: We have been on a necess~ry return visit to our old homestead on Buena Park Drive, 6.ut are glad to be home again in Sun City. 1 think we saw the sun a couple of hours on the afternoons of was nice and green even tho the government two days. Everything and air were foul, traffic was awful, and the hordes of people were unbel ievQble. No rain here for 141 days and this week should see a new record I doubt that we wil 1 get rain before duly or August, sn the set. new dry record wi I I be one to shoot at. Enclosing the Newsweek by one of his critics. article on tjack Anderson, also a clipping Did you read the review of "doseph Smith's First Vision" by Dean ~essee in Dialogue Vol VI, No 1, p 85? Goes to show that stil I water runs deep. dust from talking to him I would not have thought he was that much scho I ar • 1. thought he did a good job in an ob j e c t i v e ·manner • Cou I.d be the n new en v i r on men t 11 i s s pr es d i ng • didn't notice any "anti" bias in the article the LD~ return of land originally purchased of the state But I did note a strong criticism who wrote such a lousy contract. I re I sent previously for a BYU branch. Jegislatur~ members Yes, I read the Nels Anderson review of Kori's book on Erastus Snow in W.H.Q. and thought he hit the nail rather squarely. I agree with it and more but the good outweighs the faults. I noted criticism". some errors for Karl and he thanked me for my "gentle App a r an t I y Kar t i s J i k e Marg a r e t M i t ch e l I ( Gon e W i th l he W i n d } ••• he is a one-subject author and rewrites the same story under different ti,tles. Karl is only interested in writing about the Mormon pioneer in Dixie and I am sure he wil I die before he strays. We sow ii las Fish the other day and naturally your ears shoufd He is so happy for you that you moved away and made hove burned. something of your h.dents. He Silas looks as if .he had stuck his face in a mowing machine. is healing nicely but his right nostril is cut nearly to the tip A dimeof his nose and the scar on his left cheek is stil I red. it al I he maintains sized scab in his ear doesn't help but through His eyes crinkle and he the happy, optimistic look on his face. He can't see detail, reads with_ two ma9nifying smiles frequently. glasses, one above the other, but seems always on the verge of cracking a joke. We are very fond of this old gentleman. is publishing Vol. The Fish family The six ch~pters ere: The Brannon Servants to Officers, and families VI of tjoseph Fish's writings. Co., The Mormon Battalion, accompanying the Battalion, The Mississippi Co., The Pioneer Band of 1847, and Others who came to Utah in 1847. The book will be ~7.50 postpaid. J. Fish Smi,th of SLC is bankrol I ing the job. I tried to do a gentle job of tel I ing him how superb his father was at writing of things he saw and experienced and regretted that he had neither training nor experience in gathering the stories of events which he did not witness. I tried to draw out the methods he used to research Sam Brannon but Silas said that his father talked to everybody and got al I the stories. Wei I, no one is going to get me to review this book. Yhen wil I CHO move into the new quarters? I am debating with myself whether to come to SLC soon or we it un ti I fa I I. I don't need too much - complete the L. John Nuttal I boxes and find the Johnson letter to him and work on some M/F at U of U. Of course I don't want to hold off too long on trying for some more original journals, but I have so much to do here and want to get started again on my lee's Ferryo Also go to Tucson before it gets too warm. f o I I owing entries I have gleaned the books wnich pertaiin "Nov .18, 1888 Nov. 30, 1888 Oct 5, 1889 Oct 24, 1889 Dec 12, 1889 Feb 1 ·1, 1891 from old Lee's Ferry to various Tanners crossing there. Joseph Tanner 'lw 4a cash .Joseph Tanner 1w 4a cash Seth Tanner 1 I i ght w 2a due F'red Tanner 1w 2a cash Tanner Bros. 1w 4a cosh John Tanner 2w 5a flour The "w" stands animals. wagon or wagons. and the for You are welcome to use these entries for would prefer not to give out pictures of as other entries would provide detail to have cracked. After thebook is out I' I I to major archives. Hope your writing is progressing can spare the time. 0 a" for 3.75 3.75 2.25 3.00 3.75 6.38 ti number of your Tanner book but I the pages at this time problems which only I make everything availahle satisfactorily. Best the record Write regards, P. T. Reilly when you A~lL, ~f~-i)t;t-c~, Ft7'L P<f ]00 young Mormons·to·aid in cleaning up flooil,areas SAFFORD- Morethan 700 Lines :said 400of the youths _.crop and the loss in some young Mormons will work would come from the Mt. areas amounted to 60 per three days next week clean- Graham Stake of the Church cent, making quick resumping up flc~od-ravagedfarm- of Jesus Christ of Latter~day tion of productionimperative. lands in southeasternArizona, Saints, and 100each from the He said more than 300 of it was announcedyesterday. Southern Arizona Stake in St. the young people wouldwork The youths, 14 to 23 years David, the Tucson and the in tl)e Sa{ford area, where farm land damage was exten_old,will bring their own bed- TucsonNorth Stakes. sive· and three homes were· rolls and be housed and fed Under the welfare program washed away. The three f amby the families they will as- of the church, Lines said, · ilies were housed with relasist, a c h u r c h spokesman work crews were organized tives. · said. They will workWednes- ,.after . the flood to restore To provide financial help day, Thursday· and Friday, flood-damagedh O m e s, and ·for families in dire need, of the church in the capping the activity with a . clean up,muck from buildings members stakes whose property esdance Friday night. so they could be re-inhabited caped d a m a g e have Qeen The areas of Duncan, Saf- by the ·families.More than 21·. asked to contril;lute1 per cent ho·mes were damaged of annual income,Lines s;aid. ford, Thatcher, Clifton, Cen- farm and four were destroyed by He added that the money is tral and Pima were hit by flood. coming in at the rate of $600 floods from the San Francisco , per day. Lines said a majority of the and Gila rivers in October flood~hitresidents are memAfter the wor~ is over, on and were declared disaster hers of the LDS church .and Friday, the youths will celeareas by the state and federal immediate restoration prob- brate the conclusion of ·the lems were tackled by the Mt. project with a dance in the governmentsOct. 25. stake center in Safford and The young p e o p 1e will . Graham Stake presidencyand Saturday morning they will remove logs, stumps and de- · the bishopric of the Duncan leave for their homes. . Ward, with members of the ,~---------bris, clean up fencerows,re- church together to build fences and clean out help onebanding -e· Youthwear another Dancewear and repair concreteirrigation Mormonneighbors.· and non1.0SAR~OSMALL94&-3651'•' ditches, according to Bryce H. Lines, cleanup program · The youth ·crews are to ChristmasHours: chairman. Girls will workon clean the land so new crops Mon,-Fri,'tit 9 the cleanup of debris and the can be planted, Lines said, Sat.'til 6, Sun.l2•5 boys . will do the heavier because the floods struck bework. fore the harvest of the cotton ARRY'S Ribbon ~ace ···1ast, ",.:riliA ... ·-ljus~i '~. . .' · ,I ' ·_Useyour RhocjesfJptio ooking katydid soloist toots is favorite phrase and chirpge crickets chorus in the vening air. After a silence of 17Y. ars, warms of cicadas arrive for rock festival and their humming drums resound far and ide. ' In May of 1957,the country folk of Pennsylvania were astounded by what they called warms of big noisy bugs. imilar reports came from the Midwest, from the Norheast and southward to the arolinas. P o p u I a r opiniondecided at this must be a-plagueof ., I By Gene Fawcette • ing. · FROM 8ACK 108£1.T THEBACKFACK,A SOMETIMESAWKWARD ANO UN· BALANCING SUPPLY CARRISR HIKEP.S Nc»JBERE· 1 CAN PLACEDSYA BELTPACK. ITCONSISTS OFA NYLON BELTSUPFORTING UPTO6 PLASTIC MODULES WITH OVER S00 CU,IN, CAPACITY, u " -~ j ....,._ -v,r-YU--.. I N i • Ii) ! \'ilf I ~J.1 ,,,THEYHOLDMOSTANYTHINGA HIKER M/QHT NEEO-EVEN ONE OF THOSENM SVP8/-J./tJHT PJ.AsncPVP TENTS.: ·a ·s 't:::>aN·c P!l ·z aaJ1 Sll!JS "L U061?M SHaSn[l::>PSsew"l NMOC even though they did not devour a morsel of the greenery. The entomologistspatiently explained to one and all that these handsomeh u m m e r s with ruby red eyes and large gauzy wings were not even related to the locust order of. insects. Specifically, t h e y were Brood XIV of the 17-yearcicada. The next appearance for their resounding rock festival is expected in May and June of 1974. Mark this down in your :5-year diary for a visit. to thefr }Vocids and shrubbery. Their teeming numbers will astound you. So will their frantic excitement. And you will never forget the resounding hum of their united sing- uns ·ot Jea1 "6 S}OOH ·9 l.l::>!MPUes-~ Ul?Wl!l?W sso~:n, "l \ . For the last 1_7 years, these ardent i n s e c t s have lived grubby underground lives as wingless nymphs, feeding on the sap ·of tree roots and molting as· they grow. At last they crawl to the surface for their final molt and emerge as mature adults. The frenzied rock festival is their mating season. Onlythe male cicada makes music and he has the most elaborate sound instrument ·in the entire insect world. His echo chambers are cavities in his thorax and the humming vib r a t i o n s are controlled by flaps of surface skin. Cicadas belong to the insect o r d e r Homoptera, a term meaning equal wings. The locusts of the order Orthoptera wear a pair of gauzy flying fans, folded under a stiff pair of front wings. ders. Ttiroughout the worH:t, there are 1,500cicada species in the family Cicadidae and 75 of them are native North Americans. Some of our native species -mature after 13 years, four years or at other intervals. These are ·the periodic cicadas that startle the world with rock festivals. We also have annual c i c a d a s that come upstairs every year. The music festival lasts several weeks and the males ~-LIT .ct, Answer to This P11ule Will B• ai or testi ies at carrier riot hearing Blacksaccusedof heatingill Marine "I was ··scared, scared to UnitedPress International death," Phi Ip o t t said. "I SANDIE'GO--A sailor from · the a i r c r a f t carrier Kitty Hawk testified. yesterday that black crewmen beat a Marine corporal who was a sick bay patient during a race riot at sea. Hospital Corpsman Mitchell Philpott, appearing at a precourt-martial hearing of an airman apprentice, said that when he inter£ered the assailants ''told me that if I moved, they'd kill me.,, Lt. Cmdr. Donald Eibert b e g a n presentation of the Navy's case against Airman Apprentice Terry Avinger, 18, Philadelphia. The Navy wants to u p g r a d e Avinger' s upcoming court-martial from a special to the more serious general court-martial. The· Navy has charged 21 black sailors with involvement in the riot. Avinger and John Rowe of Anniston, Ala., have been recommended for general courts-martial while the others ·face spec i a 1 courts-martial on riot and assault charges. Philpott said he went from the carrier's flight deck to the sick bay after bearing rumors of a confrontation there. He Sqid when he entered he saw Avinger and several other blacks kicking .a patient, Marine Cpl. Robert Anderson. Philpott said he_ tried to pull the attackers off And~rson, but was pushed a.way. testified. Philpott identified one of the men as Avinger and· said Avinger later struck . him in the face. picked up ·an oxygen bottle to defend myself. At that time two'· men carrying a wooden block .a'pproachedme. I threw Philpott said the sick bay the bottle but I don't know was "packed with men." whether I hit anyone." , , "There was a lot of yelling · men then and curtains were being t~rn Philpott said pinned him against the door. down and glass was breaking all over the plac.e," he said. "They told me that if I Another witness, Wesley moved-, they'd kill me," he Redden, 21, said s e v e r a I ________ ..._____ blacks attacked him in the bomb storage area as he was getting off duty the night of Oct. 12. ' ''A man-started .swingingat :me with a broom stick . . • Police' said they chased and then all of a sudden they . arrested two suspects after an i :started hitting. me from all armed robbery at Eddie's sides," Redden said. Liquor store, 1629 CamelThe sailor said he was .bleeding profusely after the back, last night. ·attack but "managed to get Investigators said the sus.. out somehow." pects identified themselves as Chief Warrant Officer Gary Gene Rob1nson,21, of 926D S. , Evans said he 'Yent to in:vest~lOth Ave and Jerr McBeth ::gate a commotion on the ~ec., _ Y · > ond deck when he saw eight 18, of 1319S. 20th Ave. to 12 blacks coming toward Police· said Sgt. Ken War- him. den saw four men in a car "They said, 'Let's get a\ shortly after the -holdup and chief warrant officer'," n.oticed that three matched de- Evans testified. "Then one of scription:s. of the three men them said, 'Why?' and anoth.who stuck up the, liquor store er answered, 'because he's and got an undetermined. white'." amount· of money· Evans then quoted Avinger Warden and other officers as saying, something like captured two of the men after "You've been giving us the they abandoned their auto · b u s i n e s s for 200 years." near Ninth Avenue and Wash-- Evans said Avinger then ington, de t e c.t iv e Mark struck him on the ear before Aurelius said. . \ he escaped. te Suspects seized in store. rohhery w. l 9202 Rointree Drive Sun City, Arizona 85351 June 10 1 1-972 Dear George: in the same mail. Your letters of June 1 and 2 arrived l made s:-me minor Thank you for your comments on my review. changes and sent it on to Dr. Leonard. He didn't give me enough space to sey very much - 400 to 500 words. The letest UHQ just arrived and I am very enthusi&stic about It is a tribute to him your review of the Joseph Fish book. that you ~nd I could find so much to sey in longer than average reviews and echo each other only on his honesty and objectivity. is a good one. I was especially taken by the Brodie This issue end did not know she was a niece of the l@te church @rticle it must have been for him when president. What a sad experience she was excommunicated. Also, what a person she is. We see Jack Anderson pretty much from the s~me stump. Apperantly he would set I his mother into prostitution if he could gain a scoop. However, he merely represents the awful power of the press in these times. The fourth estate h~s parleyed freedom of the press into an el tte group which seeks to ~nswer to no one but their respective editors. Anderson has col leagues breathing down his. back. And remember, in the case of a g if+ of gar I ic 1 the giver suffers more than the eater. Of course there has· to be a reason the BYU branch wos never built. Unless the project drifted into I imbo @nd. died on the vine, I would expect a responsible p@rty to notify the state of the I I ike to advance to meet the change and suggest a solution. problems instead of having them crash down on me. If proper it is typical of government to let it notification was given, drag on until it be9ame poJ itical ly expedient to recognize the problem. This same issue of the Quorterly contained other interesting I noticed that Mark P. Leone gave you a articles and reviews. credit. What did you think of his article? Stil I suspicious of what he is up to? I took it that the Tenners crossing~+ Lee's Ferry were sons of Seth B, at Jeast John. Glad to hear Seth's descendants are At least one T~nner in Phoenix appears backing the Tonner book. affluent. He· took a full pcge ad in The Republic recently I think. ennouncing an outomobile agency. International, If CHO did move to the new quarters in the fal I they would proto the point of makin9 o visit ot another time bably be disrupted t should try for this su~mer after al I. more productive. Possibly I certainly hope you cen make the drive w@lk the uhallowed ground" together. south and that we can I can't see that Anderson is close to hoJding his own against The latter is too logical for him, but then Anderson Buckley. in logic as much es in sens@tion. Buckley is doesn't trade feels but doesn't get aware of things which the average citizen publicized, as witness the enclosed on the Davis cose. I read his rundown on McGovern. The Democrats are in bad shape - e bunch of sickies with no issues. ~o combination of them c&n is a waste of time and money. touch Nixon and the election The fhoenix dry spel I of 160 days was broken by .06 inch! Some day they may wake up that the "Come when eel led end go where sent" doctrine does not strengthen the church or its members. Think of the pioneers who worked hard to build up a home, then were c§l led elsewhere end finally died in poverty. I can detect shades of Joseph Fish and James G. Ble0k in your ch apt e r , "1~h a t f) r i c e Mormon i sm n • My sympathies ere with the LD&Farm manager in the Torres case. to fire a bloke every day. It's It's getting more difficult the genera I @ss,au l t on property and the nHsvesu. I wonder whether anyone wil I comment on Euler's lousy review of ~gata in the same quarterly ss. your Fish review. He should stick to his field ond not try to swim when the water is over his he~d. This isn't th~ first time he has placed his confusion on record but one would think he would le~rn. I consider this I led reviews that I to be one of the weakest and most error-fi ever reed in UHQ. If reviews on Joseph Fish such as ours continue to appear, some one is going to do an article on him. This should be done and I think UHS should make e project of seeing that it is done. There are quite a number of worthy Saints who gave their I ives to the LDS Church ~nd died in poverty ~nd obscurity. This seems to be the order of th ing:s, as your chapter uwhat Price Mormonism,.. might protest. Warren Johnsnn f o I I ow i ng or was enother. i t s e q u i v a I en t - J have ! Wh at had severed people say ( i f e he had ! " a sad The Little Colorado country was ful I of si~i lar HambI in was one and you can name many more. Best re90rds, PTR cases. the Jacob 9202 Rain tre:e Drive Sun City, Ariz. 85351 July 6, 1972 We just returned be ~ome oga. in. spol led it. from Cal ifo~nia, and I might add, are glad to Col ifornia was@ wonderful place untit people Simply ful I of kooks now. My nomination for the hel I-hole of cre@tion would have to be Blythe, with Needles a good second. It was 111 degrees at 11 AM when we came thru end Sun City seemed cool by comparison. soon as my UHQ ~rrived I c~I led Silas and told him to round up He thought he. could. I cell: him periodiceJly just to check a copy. He is still the in wtth him and chat and he eppe~rs to enjoy it. sama - cheerful &sever. As Even. if Mork Leone sp,en t two years on a grGtnt, he c~n • t compore to Eu I er' s chopper expenses in Grand Canyon. I it is too eosy, to obte in grcflnts to I earn more and more @nd less. But a bloke with the right letters after his no difficulty in spending his share of tax-free funds. the appeals to ~upport everything from cancer to ingrown begin to agree that about I ess name finds And look at toen~ils. There are a large number of people with limited knowledge of the Saints who are eager to lesrn more about them. My criticism of the Leone or+icie •~s that he pub I ished it in the wrong quarterly. I think most readers of UHQ ~ould react os you did but one not so well versed might find it interesting. But any one with a Mormon background would fine only uold hat". I suggest you don't compliment him; just tel I him what you reaj iy think. Surely we should seek correction of an educational system which In spawns such a,s, Euler and Leone long before McGovern is elected. the terminology of the salty pioneers l would say that the senator has the stature of a pissant. Ray R. Tanner has been taking fications as a Volvo dealer. full page ads to announce his quot iHe must be a member of your clan. Been meaning to tel I you that I refer to the Henry Martin Tanner book fairly often. Also that Vol. 1 of the Henry Boyle Journel is real l.y terrific. Don't know why I read Vol. l I first, probably be ca u s.e a I I. of my pr e v i o us wor k had been i n: Vo • I • lI m st i I I shaking my head at the way in which you nailed this down. Have you been keeping up on the land development promotions around the bored Heber? The Phoenix papers are ful L of gaudy ads offering city dweller all sorts of goodie things in the un,poiled pine forests. l wes. amaze·d thre:e years ago how the promoters had despoiled large areas between Show low and McNary, and now Heber is going the same way. Brigham would be interested to know that the dwellers of of the by the valleys around Tucson and Phoenix thousands. ~~n+ some ads? flock to Mormon country By alL means extend my best wishes to Helen Warr and Marilyn S. and tel I them I hope to float some more material to the archive. for many I hove never met Ed Lyon but have admired his writings years. He appears to be a very thorough scholar, as objective as they come. Press does a beautiful job but the cost is high. Have Northland you considered the Arthur H. Clark Co. of Glendale, California? Unless you need the l.C. check sooner, I would prefer to wait fail to visit Tucson. I have quite a bit of work to do untit there for myself but I have just Jearned that the main interviewee But he wasn't the only one. That is a hot haut this has die~. time of year. Now that Joseph Pielding his presidency? It seems At than I had expected. Do you expect N. Eldon to has gooe to his reword, how do you assess to me that he instigated much more change least you ore trading downward agewise. remainl Question - I thought the president of the Twelve Apostles succeede~ to the church presidency. H.B. lee is not I isted as an apostle but he hes been first counselor. Is this the first time the precedent set by BY has been broken? At this time I think we m~y come to of September prior to faJ I conference. that it just burns the leaves on our here during July end August for their and sears the leaves and new brut0l but we keep the house at 78° and get 1 1 m up before sunrise, often before SlC in the fall, say last half This sun here is so hot I iving plants and I ahould be first year. The heat is shoots. It's been 114° outside the outside work done early. day break every day. Gl~d to haar you are making such good progress on the Eighty percent of first draft is a pile of hoy. few clippings which you probably your buddy Jock Anderson. A Note that on church don t have time the Arizona courts ruled against farms. Sh~des of the "raid". Best the Tanner book. for. One on LDS tax exemption regards, Pr PTR 9202 Raintree Drive Sun Gity, Ariz. 85351 July 2.6, 1927 Dear George: A prom i n en t po li t i c i on , i n commen t i n g on h i s s u cc es sf u I s t ump i n g tours in which be shook multitudinous hands and held innumerable babies, said that occasional Ly a baby wos thrust into his arms which was so home I y that he wa-,s hard put to find a nice thing to say about it. He solved his problem by exclaiming heartily, ttblow he.re 1.§. a baby.L •• Wei I, that's what I thought about the I. C. Haight ms. Here .l§. a manuscript. But t thank you for it and am glad to get it because the 1 ittle lady didn't do a complete job of emasculation since two entries on p:. 10 are. worthy of ref e:re:nce:. I am g I ad her ancestor hod such an uneventful, peace·ful, and tran<'.lui I J ife in September 1857. Yes, the: Buck I ey item was we 11 done and I return it along with some other representative biurbs. I thought l sent you the same Buckley Item; I know I cut it out for you. Did you read the Barry Goldwater articte of July 24 (re Mc~overn)? Any comment on the article re the black council? Sorry that my LDS rating has nose-dived. I got booby-trapped. As you know, one of the changes the: En sj_gn_ made over the Era Wef-:s in I isting the Pirst Presidency and the Council of Twelve on the table of contents page. Of course there wos Joseph Fielding, H.B.Lee, and N. Eldon, BUT there wer& also twelve Apostles. Susie told me I was wrong but l thought there had been a change which I must have missed since the ranking apostle was now a counselor but there stil I were; twelve apostles. Also, l never knew N. Eldon was an apostle or that any counselor automaticai ly had apostolic ordination. It would appear, therefore, that there are fourteen apostles, tho only twelve are llsted as the quorum. were not apostles, so when did the Now all of Brighom 1 s counselors change take place? This is a point t bave missed but l promise to bone up in an attempt to regain my rating. The ignominy of my.fall! ftease keep my ignorance confidential and 11 1 I try to keep my big mouth c I osed,. Vii 11 be glad to read your words on Seth B. lf any of his people ar~ in this area I can give them my personal needle if you so seen photos of his tittle Colodesire. Did you say you have HDl rado cabin? A key word i~ describing Seth B hos to be "enterprise". "The Ten Tribes" is a clever heading for a chapter. fast, even for o first draft, but I hope you don't extent that you sacrifice quality. t hear basketbal know that Cantril li forward h im,i "Plash" of the You are going rush to the Nielson, Utah State University 1920s, is a resident of Sun City. star Do you Things ore looking up for me. My bookcases are installed and threefourths loaded. Am in the indexing phase now and it's a JOB. Then I wil I return to my own text which hos been dormant since last November. A waste of anything is abhorrent to the thinking person and this If they hove a surplus of stat ls for VIPs, includes parking space. they could very well afford one to St. George who has done so much It does seem that this matter could be settled for their archives. Something tel Is me by a one-sentence directive and o signature. assistant; he seems to bs so budgeted that Earl Olson needs o capable for time. A friend, LeRoy Horris of Provo, has been doing some work for me in the BYU arch i v e s • I g i v e: Roy the co I I e c t i on, box , book, and i t em number and he digs it out end copies. The carbon enclosed should It was in the L. John Nuttal I Colaugment your lot Smith folder. lection, the originals of which are at BYU. CHO has xerox copies but everything is so scrambled that one can't put his finger on any item except by chance or by hunting. They are indexed at BYU and in order. in that it was written in response The letter to lot S is interesting to an inquiry by Lot when he was in Mexico with Jesse N. Smith, Jos. t see it this way. Evidently the brethren Fish, Jacob Hamblin et al. of the United Order at Sunset and gave needled Lot re his handling him to understand the settlement would strip him of some of his stolen wealth. Lot began to think about the consequences and wondered just how much he had written to BY and John Taylor about his operation and tithing collections and wanted to prepare himself for him. anything which might be brought against Years later St. George found a goodly number of the letters in which Yet L. John claims he could not find these. lot was interested. and gave Lot Looks to me as if L. John was on top of the situation Could this have stemmed a beautiful brush-off. ~hat do you think? of Jess N. and resulted in Lot's period of hosfrom the needling to him? tility to find in the Nuttal I papers an order to Friend Roy was surprised an eastern distillery for twelve quarts of rye whisky and remarked Love that he didn't know Solt Lake City had so many rattlesnakes. his humor. Hope your heavy writing schedule has not eliminated your pleasure on the golf course. Don't neglect the fresh air and exercise. Best regards,- .. P. T. Rei I l y k 4 Pr ,stde t f lt hfl. L. Jo n Nutt Ji Col I ct io.n, - ig_hamYoung Untve..-slty. JI -- ot scens-t-o-n rother: res unse Your letter of July 12th tn regard to s e l,et rs r f'i'ten r y lor same 5 or 6 ye rs ago about the Un I ted Order· et to ? Ast am not at present in_ the_of-flce·, I cn~e- an ~tact copy. from yo4'r &ettu end s nt to the off_ c ? _J_ h:et yo askeo for nd tn reply received es folio s: · hav o ked through the l iters on ff I~ for the po&t ($e-,en) . rs, but c n f Ind no letter of Lot S:mltn in - hich any 7 reye,re ce wcs mode to the United Order. ·te ho-ve elso Joo ed throu-gh th letter books for the some period, thtnktni there m ght be some lett r elthe.- to hfm, o,r Erastus Snow whtch woutd nilve us some e&ue; but we c.onnot f Ind a sin.g_Je b,tt to either of t ese bf" thren, I hJ,ch there ,s the slight st oUusion to Hus subject,. I ou,d av been V ry much pf seed to _ve obtnined you d sir d, ut J do not know wh,et ot·her c-ourse to pur,su than I ho. done. lf you can more d ood f can _ss is you to obtofn it ling t, do al& that leys ,n fso that it Jith you o-r kindest regards l • iy h elth to you ~et.fad · m Itt your Sl"aih L. other y po er., wet,ither. of the 6r h n Ith I as to the mott er in quest· on you ot 1 J i l-t very giv re h vJng very h ,t John Nut ta ft ts the Elders " good as is ond so nts August 20, 1972 Dear George: Please don't think me nuts for putting two separate letters in the same envelope but I decided to break it down in this manner in case you decided to just leave the other one with Earl Olson next time you a.re in CHO. It details what I need and I am sure the answers lie within those walls; whether they will release the information is something else. I hope they do because I can write it better if I don't have to sidestep little holes and make c~njecture. I have the oral story from the participants and there is much more than I detailed. Of course the problem is to tell the simple truth and to cause minimum embarrassment to all concerned, including my friends at Short Creek, Possibly you can suggest an even better method of approach. I don't mean for you to go digging yourself and I don't want you but the next to even make a special trip to CHO on my account, time you are there, will you do what. you can? And, please, keep this under wraps until I go to press? As you can guess, I am back on my main job. I have completed outlining the 1930s and am now working on the 1920s, I am well organized to 1915 but there are so rnany phases to tie in during the next quarter-century that I am taking my time and trying not to miss the important events. Now for your letter of August 10, I have been bragging to people out of Arizona that August in Sun City isn't bad at all. Up to now, not one day this month has been to 100 degrees, with 95-96 being average and the humidity not bad at all. Today is now cloudless and the temperature was 101 at 3 PM. Regarding the gal who tried to whitewash poor old Isaac ChaunceyHaight, I am saddened that she retains guilt feelings and that she feels she has to whitewash him, No Saint of today should feel guilty about what happened at Mountain Meadows in 1857 any more than nonMormons should feel guilty about Haun's Mill or hundreds of other cruelties to the Saints in many places. Any participant of an act of man's inhumanity to man should feel guilty at the time, We should all feel guilty for not eradicating such tendencies in our own periods - not for past injustices when we had no chance for control. Thanks for extending my knowledge of apostolic ordination. Guess I took too much for granted when Brigham assumed leadership after the murder of Joseph Smith. That phase is really the extent of my past study on the subject. Extending apostolic ordination to counselors is somewhat similar to playing poker with deuces wild. (2) Did you agree or disagree with my interpretation of the Lot Smith letter? Had you ever seen this one? It all adds up to some acrimonious exchanges between Lot and Jesse Lin Mexico. Will be glad to check the people you mention. We simply can't Susie and I have a learn too much about a man such as Se-tlB. circle to make soon, encompassing Tucson, Safford, Albuquerque, etc. I take it you want some comment on your chapter "What Price Mormonism". A critic has a much worse job than an assayer. Mining men all over the West used to ship their samples to John Herman in Los Angeles. His letterhead read: We guarantee accuracy, not satisfaction." but here's my opinion, Well, I can't claim either 0 It is very well done for a first draft and I"m sure you will polish it up here and there before you settle on a final version. I think you overwork the theme of John Tanner's high character and patient goodness to the point that no one except an angel could identify with him. I can't, and at the end of the chapter I want to kick him for being so darned good. He has no flesh for mere humans. Give his whiteness a dab of gray here and there so ordinary people can identify with him. It is impossible for any man living in an acquisitive society to be as well off as he was and still be that pure. Didn't he ever let the other guy make a bad bargain? He must have I would had a touch of Lot Smith's larceny in his makeup someplace. have to rate your effort as another over-lauditory family biography. You have over-filtered the poor guy, showing him out of balance. fall into the same trap continually. I want to tell too much, build the case too strong. You make your point - again and again. If a writer has something to say, space is too valuable for that much repetition. If you don't have anything to say, even dutyreaders won't get thru it. I think you can give a better picture of John Tanner's character and the price he paid to become a Saint in much less space and you can get off a point about the background of the problem which is the same one we all face in welfare programs today. Am I my brother's keeper? Shall the rich give to the poor until they become poor? Do the strong make themselves weak and then become strong again? These are gut issues which you suggest but never define. You don't have to indict the leadership for going along with the shifting of responsibility to those individuals who would accept it while ignoring those who wouldn't, but you can so put it that the reader -if he gets that far- will do some mental dividing of sheep from goats. I You see, my opinion isn't worth a hoot and your words most likely were as pearls cast before swine, but think about it, objectively just a little bit. Bear in mind that Reilly is no authority but he has read a great number of family biographies. J' (3) I am most anxious to read your chapter on Seth B. and am curious to learn how you handle his motivation for the Grand Canyon mining project. Here you and I overlap and I'll wager lunch at the Beehive house that you don't make Seth human enough to suit me. I doubt that Helen Warr would provide our passage if she knew a wager was involved, so I'd better back off. But I am anxious to read your interpretation of Seth. to read something I have written, I like to When I ask a colleague have the plus and minus aspects enumerated but I'm not seeking a pat on the back. Rather, I want the weak points exposed so I can colleague to do just that, improve my ms. I expect the selected but only rarely have been rewarded with full honesty. It doesn't seem to be the political thing to do among present-day scholars. Possibly there are too many small charactered individuals among us who cannot differentiate between a man and his work. Then there are those who say "If you criticize my work, you criticize me!" (unthinkable for one pre-eminent in his field). to come up with a George, I hope my words will help you eventually better ms - one more representative of you. I don•t have the ability of a Charles Peterson to expres~ ideas in novel and clever ways and I lack his tact in backing off from certain things, but perhaps I can do you more good this way. It's easy to salve a person but it's a chickenshit way for one honest man to treat another. Thanks for the clipping re the BYU fossil milestone. I had seen a very c~nde-ns:ed article in the Arizona Republic but yours was better. There are some gutsy men on that staff. Are you familiar with the case of Prof. Hamblin and the one other who generated considerable blasphemous publicity by telling of the time elements connected with the geological strata of Grand Canyon? I think this was 1969. Do you want me to mark up your chapter for suggested modifications or just to keep my big mouth closed? Possibly my attitude is prejudiced by the belief that I have never seen an objective biography that was written by a descendant of the subject. But this doesn't mean that you can't do the job. I doubt that there is another Tanner who could do as well. Best regards, • P. T. Reilly 9202 Raintree Drive Sun City Ariz. 85351 August 27, 1972 Dear George: As the saying goes, I'm up to my neck in alligators, so I'm going to reply before I take time to get into the Ensign articles you mention. However, I will do this but not for a week or so. I take it you referred to the latest issue. You really surprised me on this for I had been led to believe that you gave up on Era/Ensign for Dialogue. I have three important interviews next week and have to bone up to be sure I don't overlook any pertinent points. Preparation is the key for a successful flow of information, but this is only an opinion. There are historians in the Utah bailiwick who swoop down on an old timer, turn him on as one would a faucet, and depart as fast as they arrived, confident they have the "last word". Since such historians don't understand the situation they have no trouble assembling the pieces, and the results impress others who also do not understand it. Now I'm not about to dispute your knowledge of who should handle my little problem on Lee's Ferry but I assumed Earl Olson could give the word and have the information assembled, all in CHO. My only knowledge of Davis Bitton is derived from the very excellent articles he has written and from our exchange over the Joseph Fish review for Dialogue. Bro Bitton has to be a colleague of sorts with One Way Crampton and frankly, Crampton and Rusho have free-loaded on my efforts long enough, I realize I am in "Crampton country'' when I visit SLC, but when I tie in at the U of U I am playing in his ball park. How well the Saints accept him I do not know, but I have to credit him with a rating among the top seeded" non-LDS. Certainly his mealy-mouthings have not offended the Saints. I am not unaware that Sir Gregory passes tidbits and scraps to his lackey, Rusho. But I have faith in St George, if a gentile can have faith in anythin~ outside.of death and taxes. Remember, to the Jews,who originated the term many centuries prior to the birth of Joseph Smith, you and I are both mere gentiles. But don't let this worry you, it's only a label. 0 Your response to my comment on your chapter points up one of my major failings as a writer in that I don't make myself sufficiently clear. If you will re-read my words of August 20 you will find that I did not suggest that you had overdrawn the character of John Tanner or that I found it difficult to accept his devotion to the cause. In no way do I fail to understand such cases. As you point out in the third paragraph of page one, John Tanner's case is not new, and you and I know of many similar ones throughout history. Such acceptance and devotion certainly is not peculiar to the LDS, even tho some of the fundamentalists would have us believe so. My own umpteenth great uncle, Joseph Taylor, gave up great material wealth and caused a family split when he became a Saint. My whole point, which I expressed so poorly, was that you could do a better job of explaining this phenomenon, Far from over-drawing the picture of John Tanner, I say you have not put enough flesh on his skeleton. But it may be sufficient for your purpose. And then of course I only read the one chapter and don't doubt that you have taken care of this phase elsewhere. Your extensive use of quotes from the Bible, while establishing the writer's familiarity with the "Good Book" (is this an unconscious purpose?) brings distance without perspective to the picture of John Tanner. The Bible is good source material for any researcher can find just about anything he needs in it. The Bible also says that the Lord helps him who helps himself, and the Book of Mormon dwells extensively on this point, too. Why don't you go into motivation to help explain your ancestor's zeal? You would thus make him more human and therefore easier for the descendant lacking your "book larnin .. to identify with him, You belabor the point of a rich man being able to be as spiritual, moral, and religious as a poor man and this is diversionary to your theme. Simply stated, your theme is that John Tanner paid a high material price for his ·investment but that he was satisfied and never felt cheated, Why not chart a straight line to your goal and eliminate the meanders? by all means leave well enough aloneo If Obert c. likes the chapter, He is a major benefactor of the project and your audience is the Tanner family. The three possible reactions which you thought Obert might make did surprise me a little. I Would think you'd have worried about whether you had related John Tanner sufficiently to his times. You and I know that Joseph Smith's of a general dissatisfaction with splinter group arises because of days of RLDS to the present day have had their share, The retiring Churches recently commented that sects and about 250 minor ones. with John Tanner's quest for the religion took hold first because the many Christian sects. Every this reason and the Saints, from the splintering among the fundamentalists, chairman of the World Council of today there are 25 major Christian Why? The answer to this is identical truth". 0 George, we both regret the typo (or other) error re the D. D. Rust collection note, but by all means call the item to the attention of Mrs, Rasmussen. It will add to her sense of security and won't hurt our images as advisors. It would be better if CHO gave you the credit you deserve but don't ever try to ring me in. I have done little and it's better for me to ride on your coattails. Besides, I can't use a my efforts as a backpat on the back in my work but they can recognize scratcher and scratch me when I itch and I'll be content. 9202 Raintree Drive Arizona 85351 Sun City, Sept. 9, 1972 Dear George: Your letter of Sept. 6 just arrived end t• I I answer imm dietely because we head north early AMon the 11th. Je have several days each in Flogstaff, Kanab, EscaJante, Teasdale, and Provo. Vie intend to spend the week of Sept. 25 thru the 29th in SLC, hoping CHO, USHS, U of U, and various individuals. Then we may to visit continue on to the NWor return home in o leisurely manner with a I need a break and e sompl ing of aspen time in the high country. just might take one before I really settle down. First St. and off 1'1 I say that l regret bein~ so close to a .visit from it •. You have a perpetual raincheck George ond then missing I urge you to exercise it. Yes, ·MichaeJ Quinn is an impressive lad. We worked at the same table last October and chatted a bit. He appears sharp as a tack. I hope he comes up with Bleak's 1864 diary which i could not find. t doubt whether anyone there realizes who+ a significant item this I trust my rep I y to Bro Quinn wos usef u I. is. I should think Earl Olson \Ould have hod more motivation for visiting of his reasons. f do hate to Hell than Russia, but I ,know nothing see even inflated U.S. dol Jars dispersed in that money-grubbing if I could keep from pla~e and would not set foot. ·n that' country doing so. You reassure me on Crampton and perhaps J em overly serisitive on this one-way guy. Neitherhe nor· Rusho ever gets to the bottom of anything but they can take the edge off for one who tries. See where Chas. P. won the Winther Award for his Mighty Man article Evidently they didn't know of your criticism but perhaps on Lot. he got the awar d for · f I a i r - he i s a be au t i f u I w r i t i n g s t y l i s t in such things even tho we can pick specks out of the scholarship. I thiok you con honestly compliment Leone for his use of historical journolese~-whether he basis it on pcior schoJarship, scant research, or a loo~e grasp of his subject. When you speak of the F"rm~r Preachers yoij touch cjose to the I ife and times which gene~ated.Morm6 iam. This is gross roots stuff, an understan~ing of which is a requisite-for this .period. Brodie of the bockground of Joseph. touched on it in her interpretation Th in k how d i ff ere n t th o-t d o y w o s fr om pres en t de y s kept i c i s m. It was alt tied up with Manifest Destiny and the optimism stemming from new found freedoms from Old World restrictions. As Leone might say - gut issues. Ye s, l he a rd ob out the es s ass i n at i on of LeBaron but am no t up on this as l would I ike to be. There have been so many splinters in from the spl intes from the spt inter that only one versed Gertrude Stein could follow it. There was Cleve LeBaron-a no good 508 - at the Lee Ferry ranch in 1920s. He got away ith the jackpotmost of which was Carling Spencer'swhen Jerry Johnson's scheme didn't get off the ground. Do you have anything on Cleve leBaron or how they arrived ot the present set-up? l did read your clipping and would consider the writer something an idealist who is not very realistic. Just the opposite of the 0 I ymp i c Comm• wh i ch k i c k e d out Rhode s i a • I f I ' m r i g ht i t wo u I d appear that the proper course is somewhere in between. of that she did the right thing. Glad to know Mrs. Rasmussen is convinced I hope they have gone thru her material and that an index has been. mode·• · I st i l I say n a one can id en t if y the photos as we l I as P. T • Did our friend Oean Jessee do the job? ~Jh i I e a sop of th i s n at u re i s u n n e c e s s a r y w it h E I n a 1\1\i I I er , I do hope ~omeone recognizes the magnitude of her gift. . I was amazed thet her nephew, Dr, Oavid Miller, didn't go after this collection. He must have known of its existence. On p.2 of the Minutes of the L.C. Mission which I am going to check for you in Tucson this winter, there is a reference to one Stephen T a y I or o I om i n t ere s t e d i n th i s man • Do you h ave any th i n g e l s e on him? In case you don't tie him in, he wos a John t. Young man and ron the HouseRock ~anches for him ofter JWY set up his N.Y. based corporation and put the entire operation in hock to the Knickerbocker Trust Co. The inside detoiJ of how E.D.~ooJ ley and Dan Seegmiller moved Teylor out and themselves in has remained beyond me. t think it wos ol I ied to the fact that JWYwas being edged out at the same time. What a wheeling ond dealing period! I hope we can spend some time together during Sept.25-29. I' I I hove some goodies which you wil I wont to copy in CHO for olJ the archives Al so, depending on my I vck, J may went to I eove SLC and St. George. with one or two of your special letters contoining the magic name of N. llden Tonner. 8ut don't expect a jackpot iike that of last f o J I. Have you written the chapter on Seth B. yet? I am anxious to read I can understand this one and would expect to get the fulJ picture. how you would uild John Tanner up elsewhere than in the chapter I read but Seth w i I l Ii ke I y have only the one chapter. By the way, Phoenix is ful I of Tanners. Is the Tanner Bros. Construction firm of your clan? I hope to see I am successfu several people in SLC area on Saturday, Se.pt. 23. 1 I can then spend th~ five weekdays in the archives. Also wont Susie to meet that grand gal, Elna Miller. Lookjng forward to seeing you agoin. Best regards, • i P. T. Re i I l y if 9202 Raintree Orive Sun City, Ariz. 85351 Oct. 5, 1972 Dear George: We arrived home the from Kanab. afternoon of October 4, with rain al I the way The eather certainly matched my reception at the Mackelprang home, but under the circumstances Bessie's reaction would have been the same had it been sunny and warm. I gave her the Xerox copy which Tom Truitt made from the Averett n a r r at i v e on d sh e h i t the c e i ! i n g • Sh e i s r a t h er a s a I t y o I d g i r I and she didn't mince vords. In one sulphurous outburst I think she was on the verge of tel I ing me where I could put it. (the Xerox copy.) I knew that Juanita Brooks had picked up this ms. several years go Library. ( In fact, this is where and hod taken it to the Huntington l had run into it). The Huntington has it on microfilm, and now I as told that they had provid~d Bessie Mackelprang with a photocopy which was fully as legible as the original. Bessie gave this photoin CHO if copy to her sister and was wi 11 ing to place the original she was provided with the equlvalent which she expected to be as I had to aaree with her that legible as her sister's photocopy. the Xerox was not legible but pointed out that the pencil riting was very difficult to copy. he countered with the statement that CHO should be able to do as wel as the Huntington and said if they could not, she wanted her ledger ret rned to her. She also was somewhat less than bowled over by Howard W. Hunter's letter of acknowledgement and handed it back I was embarrassed that I had accepted the poor to me. Of course had assured me it was the best he could do Xerox copy but Tom Truitt and that earl Olson had told nim to go with this. George, will ·you take the Xerox copy to Earl Olson and explain to him that Sister Macke!prang should be satisfied with a Jegible copy I om sending the Xerox copy to you under or her ledger be returned? separate cover. This\ as the negative side of my return journey. On the positive side, Elmer Judd was fully sat1sfied with his copy of the Kanab U.O. Minute oook so we can close this transaction. Also, I think we have an accession with N\rs. Thurza Little. She is sold on the entire idea. Of course I showed her the O. D. Rust Index and the Xerox copy I hod for Bro. Judd, not the one for Bessie N1ackearl Olson may expect to receive this collection in due e I prang. time. She wanted to go through the material and remove family items before giving it up. I don't think anyone realizes Watson begon his entries with the extent of this material. his cal I to the Muddy Mission, James W. continued them through the move to Long Valley, and wrote until he died there He was I iteral1y the ~ames G. Bleak near the turn of the century. of Long Valley, and his dated entries could be our best record of the ~uddy, the move to Long Valley, and the history of Long Valley itself. rlhen Mrs. Little brought up the matter that several of her friends I felt betrayed from their dealings with CHO during the Lund era, told her that the men now in the Church Historian's Office did not she tel I her disenchanted want people to feel that way and suggested friends to write earl Olson, explain their cases and that he would give them every consideration. I naturally made no pro~ises. I also laid some ground work for what I think is a ma,·or collection with dated entries running from Nauvoo to the place o final settlely due to ment in Utah. This one has to be handled very carefu family jealousy. I forgot to tell you that my own request for the final sole of the Lee's Ferry ranch by the church to Leo Weaver was not successful. My letter was passed on down to Marilyn Seifert and she worked assiduously but to no avail. Possibly the inquiry Was not destined to be answered due to the elapsed time but I would think the church records of such an importont property would be on file - but where? George, I hate to involve you in this Mackefprang affair but I don't man to break through the red tape and achieve a solution. know a better I think it wil I be to the interest of al I concerned to satisfy Bessie Mackelprang. 1 Best regards, P. T. ReiJ ly P.S. It seems that Bessie assumed she would receive a legible Xerox or a photocopy of the Averett narrative but she did not to me when she entrusted me with the ledger. She does so state not want a typescript ( l asked) but wants her children to be able It seems to me that under to read her grandfather's hand riting. the circwmstan~es, only a photocopy or the original will fit this Earl Olson might not think the original material is requirement. worth a photocopy. PTR 9202 Raintree Drive Sun City, Arizo 85351 October 15, 1972 Dear George ; Before answering yours of October 10 I wil I complete my rushed reply to your letter of August 24. You asked form~ reactions the articles on pp. 53 and 59 in the August issue ot Ensign. to the acronym "CHO", known to so many researchers, is to be -vidently heord that any definite request has replaced by HOC, but I haven't been made to discontinue use of the old term. I regretted the proofreading error of Ruse for Rust, l thought the article well done and 1 was pleased that they considered the The new sub-organizations ppear Rust col tection worthy of comment. to be wel I-balanced and headed by excel lent men in Bros. Allen, Bitton, and Schmidt. While pointed up the general atmosphere of the recent changes and I agree with you that HOC is now a very comfortable and satisfying place to work. You During the Lund era very welcome, and hod Jh i I e I d i d n ' t ho I d i t against the old man and considered him to be entirely within his r i·ghts, I thought his at+ i tude was more representc,t ive of th ... 1870s than t e 19.70s. And· I wasn't particularly motivated to help the archive either. m i s g i v i·n g s wh en eve r l was gun-shy, never felt I s e t t o o t i n th e p I a c e • it is completely different. I feel warmth and friendship and have never worked in an environment to equ~I the present one in HOC. Several of the brethren col led me brother Reilly and I was sure they knew I was not an LDS, but l was pleased and reso ved to be to them ol l that the term implies. As you once said, I y now· 'I I ike those people end take pleasure in being around them." Now But to be honest, the article of fifteen points against abortion does turn me on. In fJoct, it points up on area of disagreement with a port of LOS basic po! icy, that of popuJ~t ion control. I am utte ly opposed to uncontrolled birthrates and therefore in opposition to most of my LOS friends. l am in the some situation with Catholics, B t everywhere I look, man's i Ij s so I have to be out of step. it is clear that he increase with his density figures and already can't evolve fast enough to control himself in areas of dense popu+ lat ions. Life quality ill be very poo~ if we reproduce ourselves close to the numbers of India, China, etc. We are dangerously close in the eastern seaboard megalopolis, Los Angeies, the Boy Resion,etc. not \ I en,· oyed your cl i pp ing and N .1 V .5 of .~r_ Jn ___ l:..d~. Joe Chris ten sen real y laid it on the I ine about going through channels, but in a diplomatic manne~. Of cour e every lar e cotporation has to i si t on this proced re, and eve a hundred years ago gr s~ ·oots-cont ct must h ve taxed Brigham to th utmost. I think it ·:. quite inter ting that the church has evolved in his concept along with the rest of - 2 - b i g bu s i n e s s • I ' d I i k e to see the f i g u re s on how man y b i shops and stoke presidents were appointed directJy by Brigham and by John Taylor. I would woger that Taylor appointed more stake presidents and fewer bishops. On the other s id e of Gr.Q_'.fX.ins._ Edge the Don a I d C I ark a r t i c I e in the Bo s ton Sund ~y _Her a I d Tr ave I er w as a we I I -d e s er v e d a cc o j ad e , wr i t ten by o keen observer. I feel this every time I step on the BYU campus, which is in sharp controst to every other campus I have I haven't been back to my a Ima been to in the I ost twenty years. mater since 1 left and don't know what l would find now. The standards were very high in my day - higher than at USC or UCLA. George, lam glad the+ you are with me in this Mackelprong thing. No, with St. George involved, I expect to see Bessie satisfied. It would have pleased you to see her disinterestedly tear open the Howard Hunter letter (at my suggestion), read it, snort, and stuff it b ck into the envelope and hand it to me, saying "Take it back with tho+ so-called copy and teJ I 'em they should be able to do Bessie wears no man's collar. as w JI as the Huntingtono" impressed me as being What l saw and heard of this conference superior to the last. Last year we thought Packer's tirade on the birds and the bees had to be directed at twelve year olds from a low lQ ore a, and were em orrassed for him. I can take considerable fundamentalist crop for the pleasure brought by the choir, however. I hope Glenn Snow is horsetrader enough to get copies of Bleek's C and D Annols before giving HDC what the archives already have. I am thinking hard on trying Davis Bitton out on a tape, Just to see how it goes. He said - as I understood him - that he would provide a transcription for the privilege of borrowing a tapeo Oo you know the process of making a letter press book? lf so, please explain it to me. I think the books ith the thin tracing paper pages might· be by this process except that Bleak said that he made copies of his four "Annas". Does this mean he wrote each one twice or used the "letter press book' technique which I don't know about? My thought of a possible suplicating process springs from o John .Young jetter press book at BYU which I examined after leaving SLC. Some letters had been written on both sides of the paper and the writing to read either page. incidentally, showed through, moking it difficult you ~nd HOC should have copies of this and I'd Jove to borrow o copy for a week or two. Quite obit about Moenkopi in it. Here is the number: "Vau It Mss, 156". t.nclosed is a copy of the Averett Narredive. I am giving you the original because you probably wil I have ·it copied and the carbon wil I answer my purpose. Susie and t.hand-copied it in our motel rooms at night and it is as faithful as we can make it. I think it wi 11 answer your purpose. I hope this act doesn't upset anybody. ·I'm sure it wouldn't upset Bessie. - 3 - l can't figure the Mackelprang Xerox reaching you ahead of my letter. Both went off in the some moil. There are signs that the "new look" in· the post off ice is not nearJy as efficient as the required four days from SLC to Sun City - it old. Your letter used to be two days consistently. Note the item re Geo. A. Smith on p.9 of the Averett Keep after them to make hero photo copy (only Xerox copy; Bessie didn't ask for everything). filter will bring out the pencil, believe me. Best TS. of the pages in the An orange or red regards, P. T. Reilly 9202 Raintree Urive Sun City, Ariz. 85351 November 3 1 1972 Dear George: returned from San Carlos yesterday and by the time we left Mexico my Spanish was working rather wel I. The vocabulary returned to me as the need arose. Surprisingly, very few Mexicans in the Guaymas area speak ingl ish, and al I our gas, groceries, meals, etc. were purchased on my use of Spanish. I am enclosing a copy of my letter to Richard Evans as you may want to xerox it for tuture use. It is not we 11 organized because I am not completely over my venture into Spanish but it should add to his know I edge a s we I I as to an yon e e I s e i n t ere s t e d i n th e o I d p i on e e r road • Good to get it on record. ~e Thanks for your info on the letter press deal. but what if the writer did not use an ink which thin paper? I'm ~ith you to find out more. I th ink you are correct would come off on the I feel sure Juanita has the Mackelprang item since she picked it up for _fi0d Huntington severed_years ago. i\lext time you.talk to her,_pJease out how I can obtain a copy of her recent ed1tfng of the lhomas D. Brown l uncierstand it was published in Utah. This man brown would journal. he was independent. His ridiculing of John D. Lee is interest you since a classic and hits hard at the hero-builders. I recognize tnis side of Lee's character despite my general admiration for him. 0 back to the Evans letter. You and I have planned to hike over the pioneer a horseback ride over the t5uckskin fvH. leg? traijs. Would this include Next time you are in HOC please tell that cute lame Kathy Gilmore that t have IDs on some of the Rust photos but that .my work was interrupted while I goofed off in Mexico. Wil I get in gear again in a day or so. The Phoenix papers covered the flood situation quite wel I but a later exaggerated. Thanks for release indicated the first reports were wildly the clipping and keep coming with anything on Tuba-Moenkopi. There was a good strong flow down 1\i1oenkopi ·lash when we crossed in October, and at the time I told Susie that J have run the San Juan on less water. The washout had nothing to do with the dams in Reservoir Canyon but it could have covered the area where the J. S. Brown crew labored. The San Juan oil spill between ytiVal bureaus. typical of man's mismana~ement They fought while the oil tlowed. is and the bickering r, • ~,ve me ~e take Newsweek instead of Time so l missed the LOS articJe. the date and I' 11 jook it up. · Agree with you 100 percent on deer season. I gave up hunting in 1934 and wish l had done it ear1 ier. This is the time not to be on the road or in the h i I Is. Mrs. Thirza little sent her father's writings to earl Olson (note that GST ca I Is him O I sen). y don't you nose around to see how they eva 1uate them? This col fection could be a sleeper. I have seen only fragmen t s • bro • 'v-Jat son s aw th e gos pe I i n ever y th i n g , bu t h e recorded a ;::great dea I a I so. Best regards, 9202 Rointree Drive Sun City, Ariz. 85351 November 11, 197 2 Dear George: Your copy of the. T. D. same mail. Many thanks copy at UHS and U of U was privately printed. as this letter. to you several months ago I had never read the record of it to know that rown was one of the most obiective Saints of his day. His opposition to lee and the doctrine of unquestioned conformity make him outstanding and en forges our picture of how things really were. You and I wouldn't have made it there. This is the same Ms Brown diary and your letter arrived in the for this favor. I tried to purchase a but to no avail and was about to conclude it A check to Juanita goes in .the same mail hich I mentioned and which was new to you at that, t.ime. in its entirety but had perused enough One has to question Brigham's total balance when he comes out with dictums such as the enforced consecration. I agree with Juanita that the seeds of Brown's apostasy probably were pJanted at this that Brown would time. Lee chafed under Brown's pricks and pt ~icted of the Godbeites, ond the apostatize. Brown wos of the caliber to lose such members. church could ill afford I just sent a friend in Provo a copy of the record of how oarney too Carter was ordered to club 8ro. Loney or selJ i~g vegetables member of the Fancher train who had be riended him when he was _proselytin9 in the southern states. Twenty years later Laney testified for Haight, indicating he had a strong spirit of forgiveness. Laney never recovered completely from his cruel beating. At lost we have a point of disagreement. St. George is anything but a do-gooder. He merely gives flour to those interested in pioneer history, and the record indicates - I ike brigham's pol icy of feeding the Indians rather than fighting them - it has returned I am happy to add my bit of leavening and it him many a fulJ loaf. ·really didn't require much time. I received a very nice thank you from Richard tvans - which is more than I got from a bloke at the P. sicked on me. U of A whom Charles While I think 6f it, wil I you obtain for me the new address of HDC, I' I I need it to return the Rust photos and cerroom numbers etc.? I assume +hot 50 No. Temple tainly don't 'want them to go astray. would not miss by far. , yet Kathy told me there were no negatives in the Ru~+ collection, Kosmussen's, and she you and· I saw a boxful I when we were at lrs. even loaned me several. I wonder if everything was turned in or "no negatives" is S.O.P at HOC. if I know that Mrs. Thirza little turned in her material and I hope tho+ Jacob's daughter sent in her father's I ittle notebook (Mrs. Kil lo Hamblin Lee), but I hove heard nothing so again foll back on St. George to do some sleuthing. Methinks those people are inclined to wait for the stream to come to them instead of constructing a ditch. I know this approach does not sit well with GST and PTR. that tar I spel Is his name Olsen instead You wel I could be correct of Olson but if so, the editors of ERA and tNSIGN -including the August 1972 issue- don't know it. On a couple of letters and on acknowledgement certificates to me Earl signed his name Olson. But cheer up, the same failing got Horrison Pearce's ferry named "Pierce", with Jacob Hamb I in, BY, and the DESERET N..:.WSbeing the chief culprits. G you son picks up the three USGS sheets I mentioned, ask him to the index sheet for Utah and we can mark the entire road from St. George. I have up to them and just west of Short Creek but not for Canaan to St. George. I have the Arizona sheets to Tuba and can give you the names of those to the L.C. settlements. The House Rock Spg sheet identifies obout five miles of the pioneer road but one can get lost unless he puts in a lot of work on the oJd journo Is. I have done this years ago so perhaps I shou Id make you a tracing to be superimposed on the maps. The offer of the Blazer sounds OK but it would merely reduce the amount of walking. Tracks wash out quickly in that country. I might be able to wangle a BLM unit since they have come to me for help on this project. I've hod my pickup and Chrysler over the Coyote-House Rock leg several r ~imes. There are some fences in the way now, especially along Uighway 89 near Johnson. You mentioned having an extro Locy Rogers copy which I might have. The only J.H. Richards material I have is three pages which I handcopied several years ago and I would hove a better record if I had it. t'd love to buy them both from you and bear my testimony that they will be well used. lf you taJk with Melvin Smith you might ask if he got the Aleson material from the tead I gave him. It's just I ike him to write one letter and then drop the matter. l didn't try for it but perhaps l should have. A cot league might have grabbed it. Thanks for the clipping on the Navvy situation at Mexican Hat. Have you followed their voting problems in San Juan County? get lt(s as mystifying to me how a guy such as McGovern can capture the nomination of one of our major parties as it is how Gravel-Voice Vestwood can become its chairman. But then I don't understand why the air passenger inspect ion system isn't enf arced and how··three blacks can board a ship with pistols, rifles, and grenades or how the government can ba ii, out the companies with tax money ro-nsoms. I must be sick! Best regards, 9202 Rointree Drive Sun City, Ariz. 85351 November 17, 1972 Dear George: Apporantly you posted your letter of Nov. 14 before yoy received I' 11 reply at once as your son probably wants mine of Nov. 11. to get started on mapping the old pioneer wagon road. You probably know that a southbound traveler could go to Arizona via Roundy's Station and Johnson to Navajo We I, or could toke the right-hand fork down Long Volley though Mt. Carmej and Kanab, then turn east to Navajo ~el I. can't ans~er your question about the section to Buck Pasture ~ntil traverse at. I feel reasonab y sure that the pioneer road Vient SE thru the SW¼of S10 in T41N R2E and turned south thru S10 and is This is the chief reason I want to rid now mark d as a jeep trail. I am sure about. The descent to Loyote this on horseback. The rest Valley is in T4 N R3E S22 and the old road can be seen from the present dirt road between Highway 89 at the Cockscomb and House Rock Ranch at 89A. The road never went to House Rock Spg but ent in and out on a bl ind end with a Y north and south. Funny that you and I should both have thoughts about the grandfather I enclose a cc of my latest to him, of our pen pal Richard P. t:vans. along with his letter to Bro. Olson. I I The postman just brought you letter of Nov. 15 and the Locy Rogers and J.H. Richards books. ~any thanks, and what do I owe you? the journals of the Little Colorado; merely No, I am not collecting those which relate detail pertaining to my study from Kanab to Moenkopi - or north of the Little Colorado. Of course much of the little Colorado material provides background for the last two decades of the Tuba City people. That portion I have of the Richards Diary the entries w s typed by you and seen by me at USH • I have on I y f he wrote anything relative from March 12, 1876 thru pril 5. I would I ike to to the area of my interest in his other diaries, copy them. If his words are only about the activities farther east, it wouldn't do me much good. Frequently the repeat trips to Utah reveaJ much about changes at th Ferry. Unless you want to spread the map around no why don't you iait until spring when I have a chance to travel the unknown area? Setter still, I'll make availab e the map that will be published in it wil my book, reduced by panagraph to a usable size. Otherwise be ~n ungainly rot I. Please reserve Did you see the a copy of Mormon Liberal latest by Pres. lee for me if you multiply Best regards, re the colored PTR brethren? it. 9202 Rointree Drive Sun City, Ariz. 85351 uecember 14, 1972 Deor George: There is frost on the the weather reports, mountain region has, nights ago the coyotes them because we usuef pumpkin in Arizona. Of course, judging is balmy compared to what the interbut nevertheless it is ch"lly A couple reol ly cut loose obout 9:30 PM - eorly I y hear them about 4-5 Atv1. it by of for Thonk you ond Helen Bird for the new oddress. I had written Kathy ot·the oJd one o doy prior to tell her that even tho I wos 99 perI cent complete on the Kust photos (of those within my scope), would not get the box mixed with Christmas pockages but would got it off afterword. No onswer from Ko+hy yet so I presume she is either passively agreeable or has learned from Helen Bird that I know the correct address. The new orgonizotion "Friends of Church History" should direct more newly discovered material to church archives ins+eod of toward others I agree with your thought who practice a mor aggressive po I icy. thot a few good non-professionals would give more balance to such o group than one strictly oriented toward the ivory tower. But I hope they use the non-professionals and not keep them for windowdressing, as some large corr.orations do by "putting a nigger on disp!ay in the front office' and then blowing about their attitude of " e q u a l o p po r t u n i t y • " i v en b I a c ks j o k e ob o u t th i s • ! think HOC con improve its j ines of communication with its present I hove no unofficial "friends of church history." For example, l .._,,,deo how the Mackelprang deal turned out, I don't know whether or not 'I/-' Jacob HambI in's daughter sent in her father's I ittle notebook, 1 do V know that, rs. Thirza Little sent in her father's writings but do not know how they have been evaluated or even received. Bro. Watson was strong in the g0spel and he mixes it in when commenting on many day to day matters in Glendale, Orderville, and Mt. Carmel. The scarcity of 1870s-'80s material written in Long Valley suggests to I heve only me that the vvotson writings could be quite volu6hle. read a few pages but who+ J sow was worthy material. Now please responsidon't raise hel I with them for being negi igent in their If they don't see fit to fol low up that's OK by me, but, bilities. sometime, see who+ you can find out and relay the news to me. every item that I direct Naturally blockbuster but each has its place. busters outstanding. _.--T Oo you think Oavis bitton would of my tape, "Conversations with ouster but Sijos teils quite a the job of tracking them down. I ike on honest opinion and have by loading them with trivia. that woy is not going to be o Believe me, there ore block- core about making a transcription Silos Fish"? This is not a blockbit about his father's ritings and No rush, but feej him out. I would no desire to preserve my HUC welcome / You made quite fills a niche. o houl thru your Canadian cousin and each item Agreed that there are many Rasmussen-I ike basements. ,speaking of her, why don't you give her a call about Their location should be a matter of record, whether with her or go to HDC. the negatives? they remain The water bandits of So. Cal. are much worse than Brooks suspects. I could talk for hours on things too long and revolting to write, to realize that no region is safe when a heavily but it is important populated area, with great political clout, casts covetous eyes on a resource in another area. But seventy years ogo the thieves stole from their own people. So. Cal. roped Owens Vai ley while the victim was held by Pinchot and the Bur. of Rec. Today the crooks just sit back and yel I for results while the Fed. gov't rapes for them and stands the costs. The people ~f So. Cal. stole the water of Owens Valley but they paid the costs. Read all about it in The_ Story of Inyo, by Chalfant. I con remember the dynamitings of the aqueduct, the armed guords, the riders with their .30-.30s trying to stand off the processtrip servers. Even shortly after WW1, on a family comping-fishing to Owens Valley, the residents mode me feel as the Saints must hove related to the Missouri mobcrats in 1833. The peopJe up there hated the guts of everyone from So. Cal. whether they knew them or not. Arizona typifies the modern approoch. The Central Arizona Project could hove gone ahead on state funds when Parker Oam was completed in 1944. The water intake was slated then, and sti 11 is, on Havasu and the contract Lake. Funds for CPA wil I come from the UeS. taxpayer is due to be signed this year •. Thus the water hogs of Arizona expect ond will get taxpayers from Hawoii, Alaska, and Moine to help to waste. Arizona brags bring them water which they wit I continue that she hos more boats per capita than any state in the union, and so advertises. Sun City has one 27 acre lake and evaporation is See whet you get when you stort me? terrific. I smell promotion ond publicity in the overblown report of SI im and the Salmon. River. In the first place, how can anyone become a world champion poker player? The middle fork of the Salmon has olwoys been over-publicized and Oon Smith was the first to cash in on peddling the romantic concept ·of the "River of No Return". The Idaho River Guides Ass'n did its best to hide the fact that the middle fork has been run upstream by outboards (and mony times since), and any stream that will allow outboards to climb its main ropids is not a very violent stream. Inboards end outboards have tried to climb the Colorado but have not passed Lava Fol Is, 179.5 miles below Lee's Ferry. The jet boats required four days to pass this rapid. A good general rule is +hot unskilled people can get by running o river on low water whereas they might perish on high water. The old-timers all tackled the Colorado when it was low, even to being uncomfortable in the icy water of winter. I expect to heor that Amor i I lo S} im is g i v i n g a s p i e l i n a Las Ve gas n i gh t c I u b or on some TV o u t I e t • I agree with Don Smith. it was no trick, the chopper was w.indowdressing, and even boy scouts without a "guide" coulrl have mode it. I have opened negotiations for o pack trip Wi I l keep you informed. for next spring. you could participate. over the Honeymoon Troil 1'd be de j ighted if ---Suggest you keep after the brother of Richard P. Evans for a look ot I don't think this could be the 30 sheets on the Tuba takeover. the some material I sent you. Might be appraisement sheets etc. I'd like to see them. This is no time of the year to be joy riding to Holbrook but Th is sounds I ike a good IQad. contact Harvey Randol I later. gladly tape him, also Hartwel I Tanner. Wit I wait until ofter Christmas rush to cal I Nel I Tanner. Keep worm! PTR I con Wi 11 the 9202 Raintree Drive Sun City, Ariz. 85351 December 25, 1972 Dear George: obituary notice. It wos a real shocker Thonk you for Roy Taylor's but I had been somewhat prepared. I meant to te I I you in my I ast letters that he underwent exploratory chest surgery in mid-November a western history ctass with Ray and but my friend, who attended Ruth in Provo, had not heard how he mode out. tvidently it wasn't 990d and he went fest. I hope Sam wit I carry thru on their grandbiography without allowing his HoJ lywood influence to father's f'ovor the text. Your temperatures make me shiver. Wish you could enjoy this Christmas 0ay in the same weather we hove in Arizono. Uidn't drop below 60 lost night and is around 70 today. A gusty wind from the NWbut not cold, and the skies are clear and sunny. l'm writing this today because it wil I be three or four weeks before On December 28 I fly to Son Uiego where you hear from me again. our voyage on the 40-foot ketch wit j be resumed the next morning. round Cobo San We will go down the seoward side of Baja California, About the latitude of Tiburon Lucas, and go up the east coast. Island we wil I cut over to San Carlos. After securing the ketch, By that time we ride to Hermosillo and fly from there to Phoenix. it will be late in January. Yes, I saw the flap about California downgrading Darwin. Tennessee shal I hove to make room for the Golden State, which by now must have a higher percentage of kooks thon any one. Other recent items of by Dr. Margaret Meade of recent statements interest were the blast revelation by Dr. B. Grad of by Pope Poul VI and the scientific in Montreal that "jay ing on of hands" is theroMcGi JI University Of course you knew this all along._ peut ic. was timely a~d we hear of_mony similar ones. The Raspberry article l enclose n example i. 10s young bl cks, nd many old ones, do1't seem to have the power of reason in this block and white stuff. They less than a total -rollover to be rociolly motivated, view anything while they are os raciol ly biosed as any redneck in Georgia. When is Whitey going to stop supporting these high priced professional sporting events? I saw where eoch regular of the N.Y. Knicks mo~es over $100,000 per year,end the average salary in the NBA is $51,000! Who is crazy? Benchwarmers get U351 000 per year. Thanks for the references in the I as+ two Di a I ogues. look them upo Their issue dates were so erratic tho+ Guess I' I I have to reconsider. gusted and gave up. If you didn't remember any points that l e t t er, I guess they were not important I' 1 l have l became to dis- required answers in my last or I stated them poor I y • Moin y I wos griping about leads I directed to HDC. not having heard about the various I' I I be checking in ot the University of Sonora at Hermosillo in hopes tho+ the eminent scholor Fernondo Pesqueira can help me on some research. Keep warm. PTR